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Please explain how that has anything to do with the topic or my point, which clearly is the durability/quality of the MT82... NOTHING. Enjoy moving your goalpost.

I stopped reading there.

I rev out with redline shifts daily, and never had an issues since I bought the car in 2019. Like i said the forks were changed after 2018. If you have an issues, not be a shit driver. I drive like a fucking asshole and its taken every thing Ive done to it and never given a HINT of an issue...

And a castle.

Honestly if they had not killed the manual on the EB, and if the Hi-Po is in the 350+ range and handles VERY well I'd be interested in one. The EB is the only trim I think looks good for the S560. With how few places there are to let the 5.0 really stretch its legs wouldn't really care if I'm...

Because posting that help mean possible changes for later additions. Just because the S650 is done for 2024 doesn't mean things cant be changed/tweaked for 2026 or 2027. By the time there is M8G its likely to late as that car would already be 90% done.

since they fixed the shiftfork issue in 2018 they have been rock solid. Like I said, gearing aside there isn't really any reason anymore to really care if its MT-82 or the Tremec. Most the issues people complain about are fixed with a better shifter or just changing the shifter bushing for less...

And vocal feedback is how those things change. Sitting down and shutting up does nothing but make Ford assume people are just fine with that they offer, because no ones bitching.. so why change?

So circle jerking fanbois only? Not sure how there is ANY other way to interpret what you just said.

In what way? They have almost same power ratings, both have rev matching, and other than gearing it's really more about the shifter feel than the transmission itself since 2019. I remember when the GT350 came out people complained it had longer gearing than the GT did at the time. Only people I...

But that's not how actual production costs work. It likely would probably barely change the price of the car as those added parts would be produced on a MUCH larger scale instead of the other ones. When making parts on a much larger scale those prices to make/include them go down. it also means...

I was mostly thinking like the bushings, k-brace, radiator, maybe control arms or something. I with the fact the PP price had been going up so much, and the Dark Horse base being mostly an improved Mach1 setup it feels like there would be a larger gap between them for an improved PP to fill the...

I'm hoping that many of the S550 parts are now just included and the S650 PP is more equal to the S550's PPL2.

I can hear them now "Yes, the Ford Performance parts that Ford gave us do indeed work.... Amazing.... Okay back in the trailer."

Remind me of something that a early 00's VW product would come with.

I'd rather have the 4in interior, at least that you can upgrade to an 8 and look good. With this even the upgraded version looks bad.

That dash looks like 80's version of what they think the year 2000 will look like.

Those are going to be non-legal race cars.

Wait a couple years some used GT500's will be selling for near DH prices. Not to mention that I'm DAMN sure that markups will have the DH in 70-80 territory.

And the S650 will still look like an S650. So........