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We will see on costs. You can get a Mach 1 close to $70K, so I'd be surprised if a DH can't get that high. Yes I agree a stripper 2024 GT will have more features and more performance than an unmodified 2017 or earlier GT. And the cost difference - we don't know how much a person will have to...

If you can get a used Mustang GT for $30k and the new Mustang can cost $70K, I think it's possible. But possibly used Mustangs aren't that cheap. You can also buy a lower optioned new GT and I'm sure it will be in the upper 30s or lower 40s. Most GT350s are in the 50s and higher, so you...

The best alternative in my opinion is 2015-2017 Mustang GT + mods or GT350. Either can be purchased in quite good condition for probably at least $20k less, and up to $40 or maybe even $50K less, depending on the price of new. A few year old 1LE SS Camaro wouldn't be as good, but it would also...

Yes there were a few great RX7s over the years. I wish they still made one.

Turnabout is fair play. I feel threatened by every 911 and many Ferraris. The new Mustang? Not so much. But I do live a sad little life thank you very much. Nope. :facepalm: It's core to their ads, most of the cars, not so much. I do think the Miata is great. I wish I fit into it.

Funny I'm opposite. I never really liked the S550 catfish styling that much and I think the 650 is an improvement. I don't mind the new interior, but that's also not my priority. It seems like it will probably function fine, which is what matters to me. Most of it is similar/the same as...

Yes, Ford has been quite willing to raise prices quickly and not willing to build enough of the good stuff to keep ADMs down. I agree wholeheartedly with most of what you wrote. For me the styling of the Camaro was fine, but I didn't like the experience of driving it as much as a Mustang. The...

Not a fan of 18 plus GT front end. I think some Audis (the R8) are interesting, but I don't like 4wd except on snow days. That's funny - I had it exactly opposite!

Post #10 in this thread. I think Ford disagrees with you. And the wheel includes the tire. Rim is without the tire. But you definitely have the right to your incorrect opinion.

Seems to me that it's a nice feature for if you are driving in an unfamiliar area and miss the sign. I've had that happen before where I'm driving along and I'm not sure what the speed limit is. Doesn't matter if there's traffic, but when few others are on the road it's not the greatest feeling.

I hope you are right. Ford is closing the Romeo engine plant AFAIK, but hopefully that just means the engines will be produced somewhere else. Since the Raptor is getting a blown V8, someone will still be making the higher HP, limited production engines. If you want a BMW... Frankly I think...

I'm fine with complaining about GM and Dodge not making any more good cars if you'd like to discuss that. Those companies definitely suck. I'm grateful that Ford is still making a V8 car that is relatively "small" and sporty. However, even if no-one else is making a new car, there are plenty...

That's the big problem. If I don't feel a difference, why spend money? I mean, I like the new dash and all, but it doesn't convince me to buy. I think the old dash was fine. I don't care much about the lipstick; I want the car to perform better.

I think 526 HP was great in a weight-reduced Mustang launched 7 years ago. I think even 400 HP would be terrific if the Mustang weighed 3,000 lbs. Believe me, I'm not stuck on a HP number. If the DH weighs hundreds of pounds less than the S550 Mustangs and it makes 500 HP, I might end up...

Didn't the Challenger outsell Mustang last year? Why would I care about how fast an EV CUV is? I don't street race and I don't race even on the road course. I'm comparing the DH and the new Mustang to what I currently own. 80 hp over what I have is a fair amount, but spending ~$45K more...

I can't say enough about how great the brake feel was on my GT350. I am cheap but I'm still considering upgrading my PP1 brakes to the GT350 style. Maybe once I wear out what's on there now. The GR86 brakes don't have very good feel. I agree that Mustangs in general have pretty good brakes.

It will probably have a similar cost relationship as the Mach 1 did to the GT. I have to see performance info. The numbers are kind of meh, but how does it drive? Electric brakes make me really nervous, to be frank. I do like some of the changes and I like the new styling. I was getting...

The nice thing about a gas pedal is you don't have to push it all the way down. I see nothing wrong with buying a Dark Horse to track even if you have no prior track experience. Go to a track event where an instructor rides with you. Take it EASY. Focus on being smooth and consistent. Don't...

I don't think I've even heard what the MSRP is going to be yet. I voted significant discounts, because I think the price is going to be higher than the previous generation, which was already too high IMO. But I'm really looking forward to hearing more information about it.

I personally would never buy a GT500 because I don't really like power adders or automatics. So for me the DarkHorse would be by far preferred if those were the only two cars in existence and I had to choose one. But I think GT350 or even 2017 or prior GTPP1 with mods >> DarkHorse.