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  1. Bronco Raptor or Dark Horse

    Given Greed and time it will get there!
  2. Markups

    Here is a snap from truecar.com on dealer DH pricing. It is almost better to get a used 2022-GT500. Note how dealers are close in sync on pricing around the country. If you get a DH at MSRP then you must be family member of the dealer. ;-)
  3. Delivery starts tomorrow!! (says Ford Chat)

    I just looked at the window sticker posted by a local dealer here for 2024 Mustang GT that they have on order. Looking at the blend date of May 9th I am guessing that it got into the Ford order production cue and the bottom date 7/04/23 is the actual production date and someone on the forum I...
  4. Why 2024 Mustang Delivery Delays? Info & Speculation [Stangmode]

    Comparing the first video back loop parking vs. this latest video what a difference. I say all these are waiting for railroad cars and transport to dealers.
  5. Ford Motor Company: On Your Left!

    Maybe that is possible in your area, but here in NE area all the dealers are asking the similar number above MSRP. Given the allocations of 1-2 DH vehicle per dealer the chance of getting one at MSRP is very close to zero. I think maybe 5K above would be fair but 20K above is crazy.
  6. S650 everywhere at the Flat Rock plant! [updated w/ video!]

    It is fantastic to see all these colors on a nice sunny day. Amazing work with your drone!!!
  7. Ford Motor Company: On Your Left!

    Hi guys, can you please remove or change the MSRP on the Dark Horse Model. I tried to get on a list to purchase one from local dealer here in Lowell, Ma. and they told me that to get on the list I would have to pay 20K ADM on top of the MSRP due to extreme exclusivity of the model. I left the...
  8. 🗓️ 2024 Mustang Limited Retail Scheduling, No U.S. Specialty (Dark Horse) Scheduling This Week (5/25/23)

    Looks like GTs are being made first. Here attached are screen snaps of window stickers for N.H. dealer. Notice the blend dates on each. May and June.
  9. New Ford Mustang picture video spotted thread!

    UNAS2K5 thank you very much for posting these pictures, it is great to see all the colors in the outdoor natural light and not just inside on a show stand with LED lighting or FOMOCO website photos. BTW-I do wish that all color options on the GT where available on the DH. I saw at a car meet...
  10. I cancelled with my local dealer, much better dealer out of state.

    I callled several local dealers that had 2023 Mach1 cars on the lot and asked if they would sell at MSRP. The feedback you get you feel like these days MSRP is a dirty word, how dare you not to ask the ADM number. And if you do not ask what the selling price is they never get back to you. In the...
  11. Price increase already on 2024 Mustangs!

    If you wish to have the car you will pay the dealer price and if you jump out no problem the dealer will flip it to another customer that can pay more. The joke is that the 2024 model is hot and the only game in town for a V8-ICE sports car. Based on...
  12. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    Given the supply chain issue Ford and other automakers will focus production on high profit models such as F150 family and the EV space. The numbers for sports car sales are falling for all the brands, but my hope is that Ford will increase DH production as it has higher profit margins and there...
  13. Ford Motor Company: On Your Left!

    FOMOCO can you please make the 2024 GT colors also available on the DH to increase the color selection? When the Mach 1 came out all we got here at dealers on the east coast gray, white and black cars. Looks like all the fun colors were in Texas and Florida. Also could you make the manual TREMEC...
  14. What are you cross shopping?

    Before we all start looking at other brands checkout the iseecars price study, https://www.iseecars.com/new-cars-with-greatest-price-hikes-study Just maybe the Mustang GT with ADM pricing is still a good purchase for 2023??
  15. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    Dealers had fantastic year 2022 and the MSRPs are now more fictional numbers then ever. The ADMs are here to stay......they are the new variable MSRPs. 2023 will be a better year for all the dealers that get DH allocations. Look at the 2022 M1 sale price last year of this dealer. As long as...
  16. What ever happened to the Ford "cracking down on" ADMs?

    I agree the DH is limited in production qty. just like Mach1 and GT350 models to make sure supply vs. demand favors the upper 1% that has the cash. Ford allocates more of these models to dealers that sell high number of F150s and are very large dealers that can add any size ADM they want. Just...
  17. Now That Order Guide is Out, What’s Your 2024 Mustang Build Going To Be?

    Is the Copilot option available on the DH and is it worth the price?
  18. 💵 Official: 2024 Mustang U.S. Pricing Starts at $32,515 and Dark Horse Priced at $59,565

    Looks to me like FOMOCO can charge as much or if not more then the competition (Camaro/Challenger) since they are the only game in town now with 6 speed manual and 500hp!! As long as there are buyers willing to pay the price they will keep making the product. I am amazed that they can't add...
  19. 💵 Official: 2024 Mustang U.S. Pricing Starts at $32,515 and Dark Horse Priced at $59,565

    Some great details on DH and cool pictures by ford performance. https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/media-room/2023/01/2024-mustang-dark-horse.html If the DH was sold at the MSRP it would be a sports car V8 bargain, but dealers will make sure that ADM stays fully planted on this model. My...
  20. Confirmed: 2024 Mustang Order Banks + Build & Price Open 3/27, OKTB Expected Early Summer

    In this technology age with computer controlled almost everything ford is keeping up with founders words "you can have it in any color as long as it is black". :-) To be honest I think the marketing department with focus groups is where the issue is with FOMOCO. On the Mach 1 they figured...





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