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Let's make this easy and try and make some progress. I made 4 statements (copied below) and I have added a fifth for completion. Do you agree or disagree with each one - a yes or no will suffice. The Earth is warming. It is warming faster than it ever has before. The cause of it is clear...

Because some Mustang drivers are grown ups :giggle:

You stated something that wasn't true - forgive me for correcting you :wink:

Erm, it is always the poor that dies when food becomes scarce. You seem to have decided I'm in a 'camp' but that is not true. I'm not an extremist and simply follow the evidence which you seem to choose not too? Would you like to provide evidence that the facts I stated are not true? Otherwise...

You really need to do a bit of research on EV's rather than just posting drivel like that. The EV battery lasts the life of the car and then some when it gets repurposed or recycled. This is not propaganda it is reality backed up by evidence from millions of EV's on the road with millions of...

On the contrary the science is very settled as we now know for certain the bloodletting will not cure the common cold. We know this because scientific research has proven this based on evidence. As mentioned before there is no 'change' from global warming to climate change as the first leads...

Lucky not everybody has the same don't give a shit attitude.

Of course paranoia can cause you a lot of harm too. Evidence based science is just fine - the problem comes when you don't believe the evidence but prefer to believe fairy stories.

We have no oil or coal derived electricity in the UK. Many European countries are the same. We are building nuclear power stations in the UK

You would be better off reading from a better source that fully understands the situation. Electricity costs in the UK are entirely down to the price of gas as the marginal rate. Gas prices are high because of the war in Ukraine (seems to have gone unnoticed by the WSJ) and our renewable...

Much bigger population of course

The 100k year climate evidence wasn't really available in the 70's, Ice core samples didn't really get going until the 1980's. People fly in aeroplanes and 99% of them don't understand the principles of flight, never mind supersonic flight. If you don't trust verified experts in their fields...

I was thinking V8 F150 not hybrid but yes it is astonishing the rate of progress on hybrids. We have a PHEV Kuga (Escape) that does about half it's mileage on electric from our solar panels and the rest from petrol at about 50mpg.

Climate drives weather. More energy in the atmosphere (climate change) means changes to climatic drivers with subsequent changes in weather patterns. More energy means more water can be held in the atmosphere leading to more frequent severe weather events (storms, snow, wind etc) China has more...

Erm I'm not sure every computer in the world uses Microsoft software, but I take your point - the US used to innovate and still does but some people want to go back down holes. I find it odd that it is seen as progress? The good old days weren't!

I have no time for Greta because she politicises climate change which just gives fuel to the deniers. Remember weather is not climate. Climate influences weather. Climate data goes back thousands of years based on evidence. Yes, more evidence and data makes future predictions better and...

I will not listen to anybody 'preaching' at all - just go and find the real data. Please name a climatologist that drives a 6000lb, 10mpg limo :crackup: The big problem is climatologists provide evidence and data but politicians make decisions based on votes and money not evidence

Sad, but I fear true.

It really isn't difficult if you go top primary sources and ignore opinion pieces and extremists on both sides. There is plenty of hard data / evidence for the rapid change in global temperatures way beyond anything in the previous hundreds of thousands of years that has happened in the last...

It is amusing that some people berate windmills when they are actually wind turbines with nothing to mill at all. Oh and windmills were a great invention anyway with some aspects invented in the US for pumping water.