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  1. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    a performance trim has always meant a higher output engine in the mustang - usually one specific engine. The svo had a Neanderthal ecoboost, the GT had the 5.0, the ‘03 cobra had the supercharged 4.6, the gt350 had the Voodoo, the GT500 had the 5.2 Predator, etc. the dark horse is a mustang tier...
  2. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    that would be fine. We have had various thunderbirds over the years with various reasons for being. no need to dump on the mustang name, which has had a continuous, cohesive run since inception as a two door sports coupe.
  3. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Ford has this a while back. It was called the mercury marauder. it wasn’t a hit then and won’t be now. No reason to taint the mustang name by slapping it on a new marauder.
  4. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    no. I mean the jeep and bronco, the batmobile, vehicle voltron, and whatever else you want to throw in has nothing to do with the Mustang, which has a very clear, very specific identity as a cool, slightly rebellious two door sports coupe. (4 doors=old, not cool, not rebellious, not sporty, and...
  5. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    the thread was over after the video Madnomad had posted. It was pretty definitive. The mustang is what it is. A performant two door sports coupe. It’s not a 4 door whatever or a truck or anything else. let the icon be an icon. Not diluted into a bunch of cruft just to try to sell the cruft...
  6. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    incorrect. Of course removing the v8 would be a mistake. It’s symbolic of American automotive power. but if the v8 were replsced with 30,000 hp jet engines instead of only having a 6 or 4 cylinder, no one would complain. as that’s not feasible, we have the v8. and yet again, none of that was...
  7. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    great point. No one ever thought of Mustang as “v8” since it’s had multiple cylinder options from inception. Even the SVO was a top model of its time and was a 4 banger. though the v8 is and always has been the preferred engine and should always be there, it’s not all anyone thinks of and...
  8. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Again, the subject is Mustang. Try to keep up. while trucks and SUVS are meant for a variety of purposes, (groceries, Home Depot runs, hauling people around, off-tossing, etc.) it makes sense to have a variety of trucks and SUCs to choose from. Heck, even cars started out with ZERO doors. But...
  9. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    that’s great. yet we aren’t talking about a slow moving off-roader. a jeep is a jeep. A truck is a truck. a Mustang is an entirely different animal. A very specific one. a sporty look, high performance, and as close to a sports car as you can get without sacrificing all convenience. and...
  10. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Meh. No one cares whether EVS THRIVE OR NOT. THEYRE A GREAT OPTION TO HAVE THOUGH. ‘BUT when a hyped SUV falls flat
 no make that falls off a cliff, something is wrong. is it because it’s an ev? Doubtful. Is it because it’s an suv - hardly. Those things sell like hotcakes. could it possibly...
  11. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    A bit late for that. you missed the /thread after madmonads post. It was a while back.
  12. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    the Mach e is basically a failure. It’s proof positive that naming non-mustangs “Mustang” is a stupid thing to do. makes sense to cancel further development of failed experiments.
  13. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    the mustang is a two door sports coupe. a car that has 4 doors is by definition not a mustang. a car can have four doors and be a car. but a particular car that is defined as a two door sports coupe is no longer that particular car when it no longer has two doors. It is now a sedan. and not...
  14. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    that video was definitive. Pretty much a thread ender. .
  15. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    thanks for making my point. Mustang is a niche category. SUV is mass market. Yet the Mach e undersells, not even keeping pace with a niche car. last month mach e sold less too. So it’s not getting better.
  16. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    of anything else than a mustang is called a mustang, it hurts the name and confuses what has always been a clear image. it’s not that difficult. Btw, the mustang 2 was in the same platform as pinto bbut wasn’t one. Just as the Fox mustang wasn’t the same as other fox platform vehicles, nor the...
  17. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    The Mach e is a good ev suv. And should have its own name. It’s certainly not a mustang and the public don’t see it as such. probably a good portion of the reason it’s not selling despite being an suv.
  18. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    When anyone in the world hears the term Ford Mustang, a certain image comes to mind. it’s either a historical image of any numbers of two door sports coupes from various eras, or some dream visions of a hot rod two door sports coupe in the future. what doesn’t come to mind is a 4 door sedan, a...
  19. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    except the mustang is nothing like the charger (a big sedan), a truck, or a friggin jeep. No matter how many mental gymnastics classes you take nothing was ignored other than your continued pretending the facts are not laid out. A truck is a truck. A jeep is a jeep. Simple. Number of doors...





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