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some cities are outlawing or severely restricting unmanned shuttles because they obstruct traffic and "go stupid" such that it impedes emergency services. I have a simple answer for those vehicles - firebomb them or fine the company a million dollars per incident. Automation only works on train...

this is where Ford engineers need to proudly proclaim their contribution to the features, and then we go beat some sense into them - Clockwork Orange style. Such that they puke uncontrollably every time they reach for a touchscreen. Actually the NHTSA and other regulatory agency should be doing...

it wasn't aimed at you, but rather CD regurgitating a Ford puff piece without any critical examination. And Ford itself crowing about it's "accomplishment" when it should have had the good sense to realize just how crap (heavy) their wheels have been for 30+ years and maybe do some soul...

making a value statement (weight) vs the complete shit that is factory wheels is yet another wrong-headed comparison. Good aftermarket flow-formed are 25lb. Forged are 21.7lbs or at least under 23. I mean if you had these alternatives that were a fraction of the cost to boot, why would you even...

can we extrapolate that out to the entire car (or maybe just the interior) too? :)

it's a 28,000 car paint job. well, not even. but they aren't about to track which body is a DH and treat it differently in the paint booth. Are Ford process engineers so bad at their job they really can't do any better? Or is Mr. Quality's accounting minions prohibiting them from revising...

yup, that ceramic heat guard.

Ford regional rep in his communique to Ourisman an hour ago.

Ford will provide "an official update on MY24 Mustangs" on Feb 20th. speculate amongst yourselves. Me, I'm thinking they'll just cancel it all-together and go back to S550/Gen6. :)

or specie?

Oddly enough for 100 years people managed to drive without all that garbage electronics. Though to be honest, BLISS would have sure been nice in the Camaro. In the Mustang it's gratuitous pointlessness since a headcheck is sufficient.

gross. At least have the sense to ask for some delicious lamb or mutton.

The S650 isn't for sale yet, so it may well be they sell as many 650's as Camaros. :) People buy Mustangs because they prefer the looks. I wouldn't buy any non-1LE Camaro period. There is no compelling value EXCEPT for the 1LE trim. because you (and the rest of you) actually think we're...

first off, no less than 2 dealers will be selling DH for MSRP. Any discussion of "parity" that tries to inject non-deterministic things like production availability, or ADM etc is pointless. Given the content of a DH, it would be perfectly reasonable to insist the C8 comparo also include the...

cool, is this the selective cylinder activation feature? type faster!

I wouldn't quite simplify it that far. At some point when you start with an already unrealistic price (Mach 1) saying how reasonable the new one is is simply missing the point that the reference point was off kilter to begin with. Any pricing discussion has to be based on a "sensible" baseline...

yeah, I don't get it. This is 10K north of an Audi S5 for example. I guess this is Ford's way of extracting maximal "value" from people who want to persist in buying a Mustang. How much are those DH subsidizing the cost of the more pedestrian trims? Or is this just an opportunity for massive...

actually it's not. I took one look at S650 and thought, damn Ford grabbed the styling department from Camaro. I wasn't trying to see it, I didn't go in WANTing to see it, it just leapt off the page. As far as affordability, 47K MSRP for SS/1LE vs 58K for Mach1 for essentially identically...

because the S3 last longer, have better feedback, better stability under braking. When lapping on a budget absolute grip is not the only, or first criteria. so you're just want to hang out in an echo chamber of same voices? I'm on Camaro5/6 as well, and if the Mustang, esp the Mach1 was...

Oh I don't know... +10HP had people in orgasmic stupor. Maybe Farley meant the order book and configurator would be released TOGETHER and 2 months before production start, going forward.