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  1. Some info about Ford

    it depends. Does your state have you pay tax on the price of the new car, or the value of the transaction. So, let's use easy math. There is a car that costs 100k that you want to buy. Your trade-in is valued by the dealer at 50k. Do you pay 7k in taxes, or 3.5k in taxes in the deal? If you...
  2. Some info about Ford

    I have to say that when I had the Ford ESP, it was extremely easy to go in and get a repair done. My truck had MANY issues for a vehicle that had as few miles as it did. Cracked Radiator, completely blown out power steering/brake line, Sunroof issues (would not close), are just a few. The...
  3. Ordered 2024 Mustang 10 months ago still don’t have a build date

    How many mustangs does your dealer sell? While dealers are (usually) good at putting in custom orders and getting the car build, dealers that may have limited allocations and are not selling a lot of mustangs might not have enough to actually get a Mustang. I was told specifically by the...
  4. Ford is done making boring cars

    I completely agree. I was thinking of buying a new dodge in a few years as we are replacing our truck first, but the news coming out of that company is not good. They stripped those brands clean and while I hope it recovers, that company has been circling the drain for what.4, 5 decades...
  5. Ford is done making boring cars

    One of the biggest issues I see with Ford designs is they either go WAY to far (anyone recall the "more ovals" of the 96 era Taurus) or just way too slab sided and boring to look at box cars. Look at BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. While I admit that some are probably very boring to drive...
  6. More and More 650s

    A Corolla is cheap. I took the most expensive Corolla (not the GR) and I threw EVERYTHING I could at it, including the 900 dollar cooler. Every option, pet, storage, body cladding, etc. and it's still under 40k. Most kids are not buying new Corollas to mod, or if they do, they are buying...
  7. D2C based sports sedan

    Make: Ford, but Lincoln would be fine as well. I would prefer to see a more swoopy or aero type design rather than a blocky sedan. Aka, more Mk VIII LSC than Lincoln LS. NOTE: With the goal being to drive additional sales volume rather than a niche vehicle, I think the Ford brand would be...
  8. D2C based sports sedan

    All, We spent a lot of time discussing things like what the car would be named in the other thread. I would like to avoid that here and discuss what you would like to see in a platform sharing car with a D2C base chassis. Note, this is the chassis the mustang uses D size 2 door Coupe...
  9. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Tell me what you want to sacrifice. Bigger brakes? beefier motors? The number of gears in your transmission? the steel oil pan? Gas Struts for a prop rod? Power Seats? Safety? The Camaro used a steel and aluminum chassis in their vehicle, while the Mustang chassis is steel The S550 had...
  10. More and More 650s

    I think it's just that not a lot of Mustangs are being bought right now. Let's face it, the Mustang isn't a practical car. It's a "Fun" car. For two-three years, people have been forced to keep up their older cars because new ones were not available, and then in the last two years, cars have...
  11. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Let's be honest. The Mustang will NEVER be a lighter car in it's current 2 door, "4" passenger configuration. Insurance requirements, etc. will prevent that from ever happening. Also, from a sales point, I don't think we will ever see a 2 passenger Mustang. They tried that with the...
  12. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    unless they are going to bring that to the Mustang proper, no. The reason to do this is for parts sharing. Putting a ton of new options and such that don't have a corresponding component in the Mustang means additional costs. I don't want a focus that looks like a mustang, I want a 4 door...
  13. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    ummm, no. The Mercury Marauder was a freaking boat. It was a full sized vehicle, at 212 inches long, it was about 10 inches or so longer than the last Ford Taurus and the handling wasn't that great. It had the live axle of the Mercury Grand Marquis/Crown Vic as opposed to the Independent...
  14. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Just make a suggestion that Ford might take away the V-8 from the Mustang and imagine what you would see here. It would dwarf this thread by a factor of 10, easily. The V-8 mustang has been "The Mustang" since almost the inception. I know the Cobra 4 cylinder was top dog...once, but try that...
  15. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    yep, and now 2 doors only account for 10-15 percent of all Wrangler sales. This is why parts sharing (and name sharing) would be so important to the 2 door mustang. Keeping the 2 door is vital to the brand. Right now, without the 4 door, the 2 door is close to dead right now. Adding in a...
  16. More and More 650s

    I have yet to see a 650 in the wild. I've even seen a Cybertruck (gosh, those things are ugly, I almost puked when I saw one) once, but I've yet to see the new mustang being driven on the roads. Plenty of 550s and earlier, just not much of the new gen.
  17. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    My only fear is that without a "mustang" name, some bean counter at Ford that doesn't know any better decide that "this vehicle doesn't need a V-8" or "this vehicle doesn't need performance, it needs room for a 5th person in the back", or worse..."this sedan outsells that mustang, we should just...
  18. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    I was having so many injector issues with my 550i that I almost traded it in for a Chevy SS. The only reason I didn't was the seats were bad for my wife. As this was our cross country driving car, we needed seats that you could sit in easily for 12-14 hours at a stretch. The Chevy wasn't it.
  19. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Here is a link to a rendering of a potential 4 door "Mustang" that MotorTrend put up on their site https://www.motortrend.com/files/66bec815f84dea0008bf03c7/2025-ford-mustang-mach-4-sedan.jpg?w=768&width=768&q=75&format=webp To me, it looks very Mustang-like, but I do admit, it doesn't have...
  20. "Mach 4" 4-Door Mustang + Off-Road Baja Mustang models previewed at Ford dealers meeting!

    Stop concentrating on the NAME. We should all be pulling together to get the car produced and who give a bleep about the freaking name. Well, besides some of the people here. If they call it a Mustang, so be it. If they call it a Falcon, so be it. If they call it a Thunderbird, so be it...





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