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The source is a satire Instagram page… It’s not real, please stop posting it like it is.

if you don’t look at the tail lights and you shrink the front grill just a bit…. 🤣 At least the Camaro guys will have a familiar option past 2024… (I like both the Camaro and the Mustang, so I actually don’t mind they might as well be the same design)

Well, if considering new, 23 or 24 at the latest will be the last year for the Camaro (most likely)

This could be a case of under promise, over deliver. If you promise and dealers take deposits on 125k cars and you can only make 60k, you’re screwed. On the inverse, if you aim to produce 125k and promise 60k and demand shows the need for 125k now you can roll production out, keep interest high...

I have spent years in automotive and have always been pretty boring! I would love a hi performance v8 before everything is battery. I ran a Miata as a track car for a while, but never added and boost. It was fun, but it was a cheap car that was 20 years old. I’d love to order, not just buy a...

Personally, I’ll fly / drive just about anywhere in the US. I have had a dream since I was 14 of an epic road trip in a cool car…

Perhaps not something you want to say, but how does that relate to your normal model year sales? Also something you may not want to share, but how is your dealership handling deposits / wait lists?

If that’s the case, then my apologies as that’s not the tone I interpreted your words. Apparently not all of the big dealers have committed to ADM as I just received an email from another stating they haven’t received a number and won’t be taking deposits until things are more clear...

Did I say that? There are dealers that said "MSRP" If thats the case, Im in. If it's not, Im all set. Is there a reason you crap up this thread with childish BS? A few pages ago you were "confused" about staged rollout. Grow up.

Bummer news from two dealers I have heard from... I hope it's not the case, but looks like DH #s are way low. If I'm gonna pay "significant ADM" I'll just order a Porsche Cayman GTS

I agree completely. Im on the marketing side, and the fact that they are that far out on builder updates is insane. My whole point here is that some people here and on YouTube seem to have a hard time separating the phases as it relates to ordering versus using the builder.

Would also seem that some people conflate staged rollout of the builder options and options availability to order. They are not the same thing.

Thank you. I have reached out to your team. Appreciate what you are doing

Zach, any idea if you guys will be taking deposits prior to the (tentative) March 27th open of order banks? Specifically asking about DH.

Seems like good news and a solid roll out plan. Should have a better idea real soon on what this will look like.

OMG - Panic over yet another not official date!!!!! 🤣.

To my understanding this is how current Raptor production is, correct? If that’s the case, it really shouldn’t be a problem and shouldn’t command over MSRP expect for the first wave or two.

I had no dealer involvement when the Mach 1 launched, is there a place I can go read to get some context on what this means? For me I don’t care or even want a Dark Horse in 2023, I would prefer it in 2024. But if that’s not realistic I will consider other options

Big thank you to those on todays call for providing info and dispelling rumor -

Single biggest reason for Dark Horse for me is the tremec... If the DH is just a pain I could always look Mach 1 I guess