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Ford doubles down on EV future

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I didn't ignore anything. All I have done over and over is provide evidence from your own government and now the White House which you refuse to acknowledge. Are they all wrong and if so WHY are they saying it. Something doesn't add up, they are all very clear and yet you refuse to accept what they have said?

Article 4 is very clear that you are a Republic but that does not mean you are not democratic.

Noy sure why this is such an issue for you ?
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Let’s return to your cherry picking ; where you quote from the below contents of a document to support your position, while completely ignoring the main topic of the page, shall we?
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Kinda like make the radiator a battery?
the ICE generator will be small and require small cooling. But even so, I think the radiator location isn’t a good idea due to crash issues.
 

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Let’s return to your cherry picking ; where you quote from the below contents of a document to support your position, while completely ignoring the main topic of the page, shall we?
I chose a paragraph from a link YOU sent but you fail to address why your government and the White House think your country is a democracy.

The main topic of that page includes that paragraph or else YOU are cherry picking!

The reality is you don't like the word 'democracy' for some reason. Clearly the US, UK, Germany and many other countries are democracies but you seem to be confusing a principle with a methodology. There are many ways to achieve democracy and actually the US voting system at state level is very similar to the UK with a first past the post system in most states. The German Republic is a democracy even though the political structure is quite different to the UK.

The definition is: a system of government in which power is held by elected representatives who are freely voted for by the people, or held directly by the people themselves:

DEMOCRACY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary


That is exactly what both the US and UK have, nothing more nothing less
 

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A couple years back, I pushed on this forum for ford to try a hybrid with the top performing mustang. But to use a very small v8 as the generator for the ev motors which would provide the brunt of the power at each wheel. The v8 would rev in sync with the accelerator, providing increased juice to the Elyria motors and give everyone the best of both worlds:
Well if this was a viable option do you not think at least one car maker would have done it. They haven't for a reason, a small V8 is very inefficient.

Or maybe you know better than all the global carmakers - Mmmmmm!
 

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Well if this was a viable option do you not think at least one car maker would have done it. They haven't for a reason, a small V8 is very inefficient.

Or maybe you know better than all the global carmakers - Mmmmmm!
‘if you’ve been paying attention, looks like ford is already planning on it in the f150.
that’s great for everything else.
‘’ford is still new to EVs. First they just copied everyone and tried to make it work on a business level. Ow they can crank it up - as others look to do the same.
 


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Well if this was a viable option do you not think at least one car maker would have done it. They haven't for a reason, a small V8 is very inefficient.

Or maybe you know better than all the global carmakers - Mmmmmm!
More viable than establishing a support network for a new power delivery infrastructure
 

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‘if you’ve been paying attention, looks like ford is already planning on it in the f150.
that’s great for everything else.
‘’ford is still new to EVs. First they just copied everyone and tried to make it work on a business level. Ow they can crank it up - as others look to do the same.
Is that not the hybrid V8 patents were applied for a few years ago? Where is the evidence this is actually happening because all you have posted is about your ideas, I have not seen you post any links to the F150 future? I have been paying attention hence why I don't understand.

That would just be trying to make the Coyote slightly more fuel efficient by adding the hybrid system in a HUGE vehicle that is already very inefficient.

It is NOT the solution to any vehicle smaller than a house!

EVs don't have engines so not relevant to them.
 

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Is that not the hybrid V8 patents were applied for a few years ago? Where is the evidence this is actually happening because all you have posted is about your ideas, I have not seen you post any links to the F150 future? I have been paying attention hence why I don't understand.

That would just be trying to make the Coyote slightly more fuel efficient by adding the hybrid system in a HUGE vehicle that is already very inefficient.

It is NOT the solution to any vehicle smaller than a house!

EVs don't have engines so not relevant to them.
Solutions are relative. Extended range electric vehicles are ‘electric’ vehicles.
How.many vehicles available over there in the uk are bigger than a house?
 

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Pretty sure I wasn't talking to you so keep your offended responses for somebody else :crackup:
Took some time off to come back and see how this discussion as evolved. About as much as I expected, you keep doing it. You think you understand Americans, and feel the need to lecture. You really don't have a clue. I imagine you seething in your flat, all smug and bothered for zero reason.
 

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Took some time off to come back and see how this discussion as evolved. About as much as I expected, you keep doing it. You think you understand Americans, and feel the need to lecture. You really don't have a clue. I imagine you seething in your flat, all smug and bothered for zero reason.
Again wasn't talking to you.

I will just put you on ignore as you add nothing to the conversation
 

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Took some time off to come back and see how this discussion as evolved. About as much as I expected, you keep doing it. You think you understand Americans, and feel the need to lecture. You really don't have a clue. I imagine you seething in your flat, all smug and bothered for zero reason.
Legitimate question @A10devil. How many times have you traveled to Europe? If you have which countries did you visit. I can tell you from experience they know a lot more about the US than we do about most of their countries. We are always the first ones to get up our dander when anything from beyond our borders is said about our country that isn't positive. That smugness goes both ways. Quite frankly, and with the exception of the French, we are far more arrogant than our European brothers and sisters.
 

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Again wasn't talking to you.

I will just put you on ignore as you add nothing to the conversation
I know by now you realize that there are some of on here that are going to bicker with you regardless of what you say. Reminds me of the famous saying in the movie War Games, "The only winning move is not to play"
 

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Legitimate question @A10devil. How many times have you traveled to Europe? If you have which countries did you visit. I can tell you from experience they know a lot more about the US than we do about most of their countries. We are always the first ones to get up our dander when anything from beyond our borders is said about our country that isn't positive. That smugness goes both ways. Quite frankly, and with the exception of the French, we are far more arrogant than our European brothers and sisters.
I'm not sure the stereotype about the French is true. Maybe in Paris, but in the Charente where I live part of the time there is no arrogance. In actual fact they are very welcoming and tolerant of us 'Rosbeefs'. I think the French know they have a superior culture and food to most countries and just pity the others - not arrogance just reality!

Americans in France stick out like a very sore thumb and are a source of huge amusement. So gauche!
 

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I'm not sure the stereotype about the French is true. Maybe in Paris, but in the Charente where I live part of the time there is no arrogance. In actual fact they are very welcoming and tolerant of us 'Rosbeefs'. I think the French know they have a superior culture and food to most countries and just pity the others - not arrogance just reality!

Americans in France stick out like a very sore thumb and are a source of huge amusement. So gauche!
Oddly yeppers in french sounds alot like potty time.
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