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I would really like to know what Ford's internal sales predictions were for the S650. I can't imagine that they thought it would be selling less than the last year of the S550 at this time.

The car looks great, OP, and I like the Bullitt shift knob with that interior!

I would really like to see competition orange on the 25 as I think it would look great with the NPP!

I don’t think I have. It launched with significantly less fanfare than the S550. Maybe they just left promotion up to all the influencers… 🙄

I’d love to know what Ford’s internal forecasts for the S650 are. When you compare it to the last new generation, S650 sales are down quite a bit from the S550 when it was new. The data I found showed that sales for the 2018 refresh, while lower than 2015 sales, were still higher than S650...

Autotrader shows that there are almost 600 Dark Horses available nationwide, and some dealers are starting to discount them. It shouldn't be too difficult to get a car if someone really wants one.

Personally, I’d want the Recaros—especially for a handling pack car.

That's understandable, OP. Paying this much money for a product that feels like a let down is a huge bummer, and I don't blame you for wanting to move on. I personally think that there are some interior bits on the S650 that are woefully cheap for the price of the car (the fake carbon trim...

I would be pissed with any one of those problems, let alone all three on the same car. You shouldn't have to turn up the radio or get an exhaust because Ford can't build a car that doesn't rattle. I loved my S550 while I had it, but that thing was a rattle trap too; There was a rattle where...

The price does seem like it's gone up significantly over the last several years, and we all know why. My 2015 GT PP was loaded and I think it stickered for 41K. Now, a loaded GT is basically 50% more. I have to remind myself that that car was 9 model years old though. Sure, there are plenty...

Don't get me wrong--I like the Dark Horse too and I'll probably end up picking one up at some point. I was just trying to point out why some people don't feel it's that special, and it's hard to argue that it's as special as a GT350 when that car got a totally different engine.

There was a lot of talk about the Mach 1 not being that special as well. I can see where some of it comes from: the car it somewhat replaced--the GT350--had an engine that was unique to that model, so when the Mach 1 debuted and it had a slightly worked 5.0, it didn't seem nearly as special...

It 100% is! I have a friend that ordered a Model S Plaid—from his phone, no less—and took delivery of his car less than a month later. He scheduled a delivery time at the dealership from his phone, showed up, signed three papers, and was out the door! In some states you can sign the paperwork...

Especially when you're talking about a non-handling pack car. It's basically a GT PP with a measly 14 more hp, additional coolers for the trans and diff, and in the case of this car, a Tremec instead of the Getrag. For 88K? I think I'll pass, Jerry... At least the Mach 1 got a different...

I know the Mustang is "new," but let's be real--the majority of the car is carryover from the S550. It shouldn't be this difficult to build them. Why is it that my buddy can order a Tesla Model S Plaid--from his phone, no less--and delivery is 4 weeks or less, but Ford makes you wade through...