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Some opinions are objectively wrong. Like thinking Nickelback is a good band, or that McDonald's serves food. One is a band-like substance, fronted by a singing bowl of ramen. The other is a food-like substance, that you be better off substituting with ramen. Dry. Saying the S197 looks...

Want to hear another one of my conspiracy theories? Too bad if you don't, this is the internet! Ford is putting out both the supercharged Raptor R AND the EV Lightning variant of the F150. I'd bet money that the ICE lives on as a limited run option. Unfortunately, that would mean steep ADM...

Fact?

@amk91 Good points all round. I will say the switch to IRS was a pretty big deal, even if the car didn't change "platforms". They've done quite a lot with what they have. If we're going down the rabbit hole, the S550 has gone full circle, back to the DEW98 roots as a RWD/IRS car.

It's a reference to the reference... We have no idea when these cars will show up. All we're going off of now is spy shots of cars in camo (test mules?), a sculpture at a Chinese auto show (seriously...), and a NASCAR...um..."car". This sounds like the plot of a F&F/National Treasure...

Ford: JK guys, the Mach-E is the only Mustang for MY 2024 and beyond! :puke:

My conspiracy theory is that the "S650" we're seeing IS an S550 refresh at this point. Think of it this way, the S197 ran for 10 years. It also managed to have 2012-2014 MY sales higher than S550 sales from 2017-2019 MY's (I'm not using 2020 as a measure of anything "normal"). As far as...

Lucy Harris, smart smart smart, smart smart smart smart smart! Martin Harris, dum-de-dum...

For sure. Let's assume they would hit the 2015 numbers of ~122k. They sold 900k F150's the same year. Trucks are higher margin. If it comes down to selling: 900k F150's and 0 Mustang's vs. 780k F150's and 120k Mustang's My bet would be that Ford leans toward the first option. Looking...

My question is though, covid aside, how might the ongoing chip shortage affect any new models? Would Ford really put out a new car without being able to guarantee their ability to put them on lots? It's very likely that supply/demand would be reconciled until well into next year, if not until...

I had the exact same series of thoughts. Ew, it looks like a Camaro...wait...it is a Camaro :cwl:

This guy is a real class act... Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even put in Sync 4 :facepalm:

If the MKZ came with a Coyote, I might be driving one instead of the Charger.

Is the Performance Pack worth it? Is Safe & Smart worth it? Is Active Exhaust worth it? Is the 60th Anniversary Edition worth it?

Hello current 6Ger's and future 7Ger's. Now that we've got a dedicated forum for the S650, it's time to discuss the really important issues: 1. Will it take 87 octane? 2. Does it come in a manual? 3. Can we put used canola oil in the engine?

So far it doesn't look all too different from the S550, so I expect the Coyote to continue for a while at least. I will be very tempted to buy the "last of the v8 interceptors" myself.

I'm in. Actually have Norwegian ancestry on my mother's side. This makes sense now.

See you on the ice cream thread?

Get the fuck out of here with your politics bullshit. I'm sick to death of the fucking tribalism. Normal people have about as much to do with the political system as they do with their favorite sports franchise.

I'll get my mom to smuggle some up here :crackup: