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  1. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    Good Lord... I expect the DH crowd to blow smoke up their own asses regarding their purchase, but it's on another level when you are trying to put it up against a Shelby. That Shelby badge comes with a hell of a lot more than just stickers and a badge. History and Legacy count a whole hell of a...
  2. Dark Horse vs Mach 1 Mustang Benchmarking @ the Nurburgring

    Probably the driver, but that Mach looked way more comfortable at turn-in. It looks like the DH wants to step out.
  3. 2024 Mustang RTR Spec 2 (S650) Official Reveal

    I don't like the grill lights at all, but at least overall they made the car look more mean. Definitely an improvement over stock.
  4. New Ford (Private) Offer: $1250 Cash Incentive on 2024 Mustangs (Non-Dark Horse) Until July 5th

    Jesus, Ford has got a bunch of monkeys running their marketing. Price increase, price decrease, promo's etc, and the damn car hasn't even been built. This promo is horrible news as noted earlier that "dealer stock" is usually targeted to move stock. Now they are offering it for orders. Advance...
  5. Price Increase on Dark Horse Premium Model

    I hear ya, but, that's also a Boss. Check prices on a 70's "King Cobra" or an 84 "Gt 350" and you'll see exactly where the DH is going to fall. There is nothing special at all about a DH for what Ford is trying to rape the customer for money wise. It's 14hp, a paint job, and recycled suspension...
  6. Price Increase on Dark Horse Premium Model

    What I think Ford is doing with the DH is choking supply, to increase demand, and is raising the price. It's an old marketing trick. Sadly, I think it's going to backfire, hard. There is just not enough Mustang meat on the bone. If I'm Mach 1 owner, I'm laughing myself all the way to the bank...
  7. Price Increase on Dark Horse Premium Model

    This is getting comical now. No Mustang without a Shelby name is worth that much money...
  8. How to use Remote Rev in 2024 Mustang S650 & a Key History Lesson

    Ohhhh... did I hurt your little feelings with my opinion? Too f*cking bad. Deal with it. There is nothing "cool" about this "gimmick" in my opinion. Get over the fact someone disagrees with you, or don't. I hear myself fine, thanks.
  9. How to use Remote Rev in 2024 Mustang S650 & a Key History Lesson

    Nothing poser about heated and cooled seats! Vinyl is just brutal when the temps creep up. Instant sweaty back.
  10. How to use Remote Rev in 2024 Mustang S650 & a Key History Lesson

    Of all the stupid things ever put into a vehicle. Is Ford going to pay for the busted windshield from a baseball bat when some bozo with a custom exhaust remote revs his car and pisses someone off? Really Ford, you could have taken that features resources and put them toward a decent interior...
  11. Dark Horse Mustang Media First Ride Reviews

    That. After the initial "I'll pay anything" crowd does their thing, the lots are gonna be full of Mustangs by years end. I'd put money on massively good deals (zero % financing etc) in year two. The 650 doesn't bring enough to the table to justify the price. Fords only play will be to cut...
  12. Media Gets First-Rides of Dark Horse 2024 Mustang at NYIAS Tomorrow

    To each their own as they say. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Having said that, count me in as one that thinks the rear-end (and front-end) of the car is absolutely hideous. The rear-end looks like someone pinched it between their fingers and then stuck a diaper underneath it.
  13. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    Absolutely no offense taken at all. If I had my way, EV's would be an addition to the market, not a takeover like I think is gonna happen. I'll take a V8 powered Pony over an EV any day, if they could get the power equaled to what an EV can push. Sadly, the govt regs will never let that happen.
  14. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    Would this exact place be a place of "drivel" as well. You're basing everything you say out of emotion, not logic. You can't have it both ways. Inline 6 turbos sound nothing like a V8. Folks like you scream sound of muscle car, yet in the same breath ignore that an inline 6 turbo sounds like...
  15. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    Backlash? Everything I've read shows massive interest and support of it. EV's are the future whether we like it or not. An EV Charger with two ICE engines is an absolute waste of resources and I would expect any ICE engine to not be of the performance variety. It makes no sense $$ wise. EV's...
  16. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    I think folks are holding on to the "it's the only true pony car left" death grip a little too tight. Both Chevy and Dodge may be quiet in the performance market for a year or two, but when they both get up to the plate again, they are going to knock the cover off the ball. The 650 has a two --...
  17. How well do you think the S650 will sell?

    It wont touch the numbers of the 550. There is not enough meat on the bone with the 650 as far as price/performance. 60k is steep for a well optioned pony car (and the DH is overpriced no matter how you stack it). Add the lack of cars the dealers look like they will be getting, and the...
  18. Confirmed: 2024 Mustang Order Banks + Build & Price Open 3/27, OKTB Expected Early Summer

    The GT premium is *slightly* worth looking at, but something tells me it's gonna be a 63,000 dollar car spec'd the way I want. And there is absolutely no way in hell I'm paying that much for a Mustang GT Premium with a performance pack. Ford is choking the Mustang crowd. The cars are not worth...
  19. S650 Mustang GT with stripes in red & gray (video)

    Agreed. Of every 650 that has been shown (including the DH) the race red with the performance pack has been the pinnacle.
  20. Base Interior Spied Up Close for the First Time.

    I'm sorry but that is an absolutely piss-poor design. I mean it's horribly bad. I get that all vehicles like it or not are moving to the digital pad age, but a 5 year old could have come up with something better. The dash layout GM came out with on their refreshed pickups are a two screen design...


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