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I am in full agreement with the MT review and summary on the first post. S650 was a miss-externally and internally. They messed up the digital evolution too. PDR? Nope. Heads up? Nope. Tesla screens where I can spin a picture of a Mustang? Yep! And reviewers still say it is slow and glitchy!

Based on the small group discussion we had with the brand manager at Barber's, I am still convinced there will be no mustang in S650 wearing Shelby coming out of Ford directly like the GT350 or 500. I think this will wear either Cobra or a DH variant such as DH 500 or something along those...

One of the best summaries of S650 I have read. It is ok. The interior/tech refinements I was hoping for were actual improvements like a PDR, heads up display...not tacked on screens with a spinny Unreal mustang...hooray? Lol at people who seem to think they got refinement on par with a BMW...

year over year being down is the real story-especially when the S550 this time last year was on its down slope too...loan rates suck but let's face it...S650 is not a hit. IMHO an interior redo is needed and soon. That is the only way I would consider one...with a hefty discount too.

Saw this today. I had a Lot of the same questions as others but this will probably do well...cost is high but having it off the dealer floor and financed with the car will help sell it. I imagine factory extended warranties will include this as well with the car if the film is on par with Xpel...

I made a similar decision to skip the HP on the Mach 1 as I would hit that lower splitter quite frequently-I also didn't want Cup 2s and when I bought my Mach 1 the PS4s in that size was hard to get at the time. One thing I do wish had been an option on the Mach 1 and Dark Horse would be to get...

Michelins PS4S or Continentals for me. I would never trust Pirellis after experiencing P Zeroes on my 16 GT. Those tires were awful.

Yep...if I had to buy today, a C8 would be in my driveway before a DH would be. Full stop. The opposite happened when I had to make that call between C8 and Mach 1 in 2021. Ford dealer has mustangs stacking up. Chevy dealer gets a few Corvettes in stock and sells at MSRP or $250 off and those...

I am curious about this "looks more aggressive." Because the front end is bigger? Because they removed accent lines on the side? Looks like a truck front end stuck on a car. Not sure I would characterize that as more aggressive but to each his own-it looks bulkier. 500hp is good on DH and I...

The reveal was not only less fanfare but downright terrible compared to S550. Pericak and his team were engaging and excited about the S550 mustang. The Chief Engineer and people at the S650 reveal were...not (I will be nice). About the only thing I remember was the Chief Engineer knew the...

At this point, I will be surprised if Ford keeps licensing the Shelby name. DH was a direct departure from that and if it will keep costs down on the special variants, maybe they should. The entire GTX and DH line that we see them pushing shows a strategy to get away from Shelby and push Ford...

2021 Mach 1 brought 500K...diminishing returns

Thanks for confirming that note on the 10 speed AT that there were no hardware changes. Now Ford should do the right thing and re-flash every S550 10 speed to this updated programming if it truly smooths out the experience. The S550 tuning on the 10 speed was atrocious...especially compared to...

I don't like S650 styling that much to begin with....this didn't help. Interior is better than exterior though.

spot on if you ask me except all the exterior changes from the hood vent back are pretty much Camaro except for the Pacman rear lights...that was Hyundai. center hood vent...yep; reduced accent lines on doors...yep; thin headlights, boxier front, black backing on DH on front...yep; enhanced rear...

Ford should flash S550s with this new programming...they didn't change it mechanically at all. Compared to the Camaro, it was sloppy programming and if they fixed it, they should make it available on the S550.

Ridiculous-you were right to walk away. These cars are 45K+ now. Inexcusable. And these workers want how much for raises...pensions, 4 day work weeks?! GTFOH. My 14K Nissan Versa beater car has better QC than this...not even kidding. Compared to my wife's Kia Telluride...they are not even in the...

Don't think too much in depth on the interior upgrade because it seems pretty meager. It got better graphics...you can spin an unreal 4 mustang with your finger and I guess the Nav graphics are better. Woohoo. No PDR, no heads up, other things got cut. To show good will, I will concede the Fox...

Heads up and a PDR should have been a base part of this digital upgrade. I think those should have been in the 18 refresh considering Camaro had both of those in 16.

Maybe just the Mach 1 dropped those hooks...strange.