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This is what I’m torn about and why I’m trying to find pics.

This is the problem I’m running into, many people got the grabber blue calipers on ‘24; plenty. But Ford got rid of that option on ‘25 and switched to offering Notorious Blue. Which in itself is odd since that was Dark Horse exclusive in ’24. And was, and still, only in the AP; which itself is...

Yes, and a big enough difference as to why I’m trying to finds on a car. But if that doesn’t happen, I’ll sharper my photoshop skills and use these. Thanks.

Anyone have a ‘25 with the Notorious Blue calipers? If so, I’d appreciate a straight on side shot. I’ll take any car and wheel, but my ideal pic would be a Grabber Blue with the optional Machined w/Tarnish Aluminum wheels (644). I have been through the Grabber Blue thread, but no luck. Stinks...

Is this a ‘25? If so, I’ve been trying to find pics of the Notorious Blue calipers on a non-Dark Horse; would appreciate a straight on side view.

Chip & seal is bad enough; can’t imagine it being water based. Terrible.

Agreed. My 2011 had all season Pirellis (at least claimed to be) and they acted more like a summer tire and wore bad; so agreeing with your comment about older Pirellis not being too great.

Now I’m even more interested in how you like them. My 2011 Ecoboost had and the tread life was bad, and they seemed to start to get hard if it was around 45° out,

Agreed about 40 vs 35. The continentals being ‘just OK‘ is actually good to hear; better than them being junk. Will be interesting to hear how you like the ride of Pirellis; keep me posted.

That is good info. Actually, that is exactly what I care about. I also wonder if the contis are good enough tire. The 20s are Goodyear Eagles, which I haven’t been impressed with on previous cars; but they put ‘Eagle‘ on so many tires, so hard to know.

The thinner sidewall was what I was wondering about, from a ride perspective. Thanks for the reply.

Anyone have a pic of a ‘25 with the Notorious Blue calipers? Really like to see how the two blues go together. Stinks that they got rid of Grabber blue as a caliper color, as that is the perfect choice IMO.

Could you post a pic of the entire side? I’d like to have good look of those wheels against Grabber Blue, as I’m thinking of getting those if I go PP.

Congrats. I’m interested in your take of how it rides on the 20”tires. About to research people‘s take on the 20” Goodyears vs the 19” Continentals vs the PP w/Magna & summer tires.

That would be nice, but I don’t think they will since the ‘23 Escape had been like that for longer 🙁 Exactly

Thanks for pics! They look great. It kind of looks likes the Miko suede that I’ve see in the Edge ST. Just odd that they call it that Cloth on Build & Price.

Are the seats vinyl and cloth, as build & price says? Or more of a suede and Active X? Based on build & price descriptions, the GT Premium seats sound better, which doesn’t make sense.

For #1, I’ve noticed a similar thing with my Maverick. My ‘22 did a great job with centering, but my ‘25 acts like you described; even on straights. Our ‘23 Escape also acts like you described, which is my first vehicle with ACC. I was glad my ‘22 Mav didn’t act like the Escape, as it is our...

Try putting it in Neutral, and coast at that speed, to eliminate the tranny.

My son just went through this with is Civic Type R which it comes stickish tires, very close to a dry only tire. Research came down to Michelin's A/S 4 and the Continental DWS. He went with Michelin. He went with a slightly bigger diameter than stock, it was right around 3% difference, so he...