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I agree with what you're saying, but there's no way that Ford isn't disappointed that the refreshed Mustang didn't cause an uptick in sales. The economy also didn't stop the Corvette from increasing sales quarter over quarter (yes, these buyers may be less sensitive to interest rates and...

Yeah, I don't quite understand what Ford is doing here. The S650 is already not a hot seller, and yet they're going to come out with a sizable price increase that's well above inflation and well above most other models. That might be understandable if there were notable upgrades, but instead...

Unfortunately for Ford, you can't just increase your price to get there. You actually need to make a better product to go along with it.

For the price increase in 25, the Tremec should be standard in the GT.

I was REALLY hoping we’d get a nice orange for 2025.

Maybe I'm trivializing those things because outside of the sheet metal, they're not big changes. The new interior is the same interior as the 550 minus the dash and steering wheel. The seats are the same, front and rear. The center console in the same. It's literally the same interior with a...

I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Ford is dropping this color (along with yellow) yet retaining 4 grayscale colors. Ugh. I get that 90% of all the cars on the road are white, black, or gray/silver, but that doesn't mean that's all you should offer.

Yeah, sorry, I'm not buying that. The 2025 model year will be the 11th year for this platform since the S650 is an S550 underneath the sheet metal. It's not an aluminum structure, and they haven't done much in terms of development over those 11 years. What changes? It's the same car with new...

The integration seems to be the biggest issue for the people that don't like the dash. Regardless of how much effort it took to design and come up with, just slapping a screen (or two) on top of the dash just LOOKS lazy--not to mention completely devoid of any sort of discernable style. I get...

You're good--all Dark Horses come with active exhaust!

Oh, I'm sure they do! :D Yeah, 45 and 70 IS a big difference, and that's not my issue. The issue I have is with Ford pricing a well equipped premium GT into M2 territory (and a few grand lower than base C8 territory), and that goes for the Dark Horse as well. It's also the fact that the...

I can't speak to the 24, but I had Kooks green catted headers on my 15 GT and they did not throw any codes or cause any issues for state inspections (they hook up to the OBD port in my state). They sounded amazing, but beware that they do increase the volume quite a bit. Fitment was spot on...

I'd say 45K since the Ecoboost isn't really relevant if you're comparing things like Vettes and M2s, but I agree with what you're saying. The thing is, not everyone wants a base 45K GT, and if you're looking at a Dark Horse, the gap to the Corvette is even smaller.

So it IS a value car? As another poster stated, the Mustang has always been a "more affordable" performance car versus things like BMW M cars and Corvettes. That's not really the case anymore. I just built an M2 that was $1,000 cheaper than the GT I specced out, and it's not far off Corvette...

Ford have collectively lost their damn minds. The 2024 already wasn't exactly a hot seller, and they're going to increase the price that much?!? A 24 GT as I would've specced it was 63K, and the same car for 25 is somehow 68K--AND it doesn't have wireless charging anymore, so it's actually 5...

Jesus. I just built a GT to $67,700 and I’m pretty sure the car was 63K last year. Four thousand more in one year for the same (but actually less since there’s no wireless charger) car?!? That’s pretty crazy. Ford is really taking advantage of being the only NA V8 manual game in town. I’m also...

Will this fit over the PP front splitter?

If you're able to post some sound clips, that would be great! I had an S-type on my 2015 and loved it.

I can't vouch for the S650, but I had Kooks green catted headers on my 2015 GT and never had any issues with CEL or passing state inspections.