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  1. With the s650 GT being an AWD hybrid v8 - would it still be considered a muscle car?

    You DO WANT AWD you just haven't had a car with proper AWD. Look at the BMW G80 M3... The xdrive M3 combines both, AWD AND RWD. One can easily switch between them by pushing a single button. Yes, the entire system is slightly heavier ~50kg but we're talking about an already heavy cars so...
  2. 2024 Mustang GT S650 Prototype First SPY Sighting! šŸ‘€

    Hawkeye ACE ;) I'm not even mad, that's amazing :D They can't have that many preassure if they can wrap an old S550... However, they might have actually wrapped an EU S550... Was wondering why else they would test a S650 with EU specs that doesn't need any testing...
  3. 2024 Mustang GT S650 Prototype First SPY Sighting! šŸ‘€

    Wow, lovely pics :D Much more like real spy shots than the first ones ;) I have three things that I take away at first glance: The exhaust system or more precise the space that is provided for the final exhaust is way too big for just a two tip system. Ć  Looks like they’re keeping the...
  4. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    That’s not the case in Europe and probably not in other parts of the world where the Mustang isn’t an affordable car. Base price in Europe starts around 50k€ ~ $60k so most people that can afford a Mustang are naturally slightly older. In addition, those customers aren’t interested in pure...
  5. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    Our German brands do that all the time with dire consequences: your basic trim has nothing on it accept wheels and an engine and they charge you for literally every option. An example: a base m440i sets you back ~57000$. However, if you check some boxes one can easily get well into +$73000...
  6. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    I asked myself the same yesterday and came to the conclusion that these aren’t ā€œspy shotsā€ but rather shots taken from Ford in order to start the marketing campaign. It doesn’t really matte whether they were taken by a third party, a Ford employee or god knows who but I’m pretty sure these...
  7. Mustang s650 posing in Ford Lightning ad?!

    That doesn't look like a Mustang or a real car to begin with ;) There's another car at the beginning: But again I think those are CGI creations to make ad look more like a real "gas"station
  8. What Should Come Standard Across All Mustangs Going Forward?

    Too expensive. Make it optional (I would opt for these but others might not). However, the Tremec might come as standard as well as SYNC 4 or 5 by then. I just hope that there are newer options like a HUD or a 360 camera.
  9. S650 Mustang design / styling first-hand description šŸ•µšŸ»‍ā™‚ļø

    Pure logic, nothing else. Gen 3 has been around for a couple of years now so it only makes sense to revise the engine. I don’t know what they’re going to revise but I’m sure they’ll will create 450-500hp base Coyote. In addition, I hope that they electrify that engine with a 100-200hp engines...
  10. S650 Mustang design / styling first-hand description šŸ•µšŸ»‍ā™‚ļø

    A hard pass on that one… The C8 is a gorgeous car but at the same time something completely different then a Mustang. The C8 is a sport-/racecar like an affordable Ferrari. It’s a 2 seater and well balanced overall. The Mustang on the other hand is a GT, has 2+2 seats and isn’t meant for...
  11. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    I knew it... the low life’s from "Autoblog" stole your pics and just cut them so the "Mustang7G" isn't visible any more. Besides, they added their own watermark... Won't post the link to generate more "clicks" for them but "BYRON HURD" is the name of the "author"... Maybe someone with twitter...
  12. First Look: S650 Mustang Prototype Spied With Production Body! šŸ“ø

    I do get where @Jem got the "underwhelming" first impression from😬 We finally got some actual s650 pics but there are already a few concerning aspects... Headlights look outdated, overall front looks "just" ok and the non-existance of the quad exhaust is a no go. Unless it is the Ecoboost...
  13. Didn't see this posted if it is please delete...Stangmode on the 2023 S650 Mustang

    I totally agree. The only new information were the MT82 will bereplaced by the TREMEC and the interior render that might be somewhat close to the final product. Unlike the Ford Evos large curved screen this interior would be a clear evolution rather than a revolution. Anyhow, I liked most of...
  14. S650 Mustang Production Starts March 2023 Claims Autoforecast Solutions

    No offense but I honestly don’t understand what you are saying. I literally don’t understand it. As a customer who is not known to MY’s I would prefer some reliability in numbers (MY20 build in 2020 not somewhere between June 2019 and maybe March 2021). Besides, I would bet that 99% of the...
  15. S650 Mustang design / styling first-hand description šŸ•µšŸ»‍ā™‚ļø

    The front end is fugly and the lights will most likely not look like that as that design was inspired by a 2007 design so it’s very much outdated ;) Apart from that (take away the entire front) it is pretty good looking as it looks almost exactly like the current S550. The overall aesthetics...
  16. S650 Mustang Production Starts March 2023 Claims Autoforecast Solutions

    As mentioned earlier before I think a ~2 month retooling phase seems like the most likely solution, especially if they build the hybrid from the get got. I doubt that they could ā€œretoolā€ FlatRock within two weeks and restructure the plant so that hybrid cars can be produced en masse. Besides...
  17. S650 Mustang Production Starts March 2023 Claims Autoforecast Solutions

    I think it’s actually smart to release a MY in that same year ;) Never liked the early dates… FIFA22 is out since September 2021... I never played FIFA but it’s the same with cars… Back to the topic: If it’s true that they’ll start selling the S650 in March then I doubt that they are going to...
  18. Wait for S650 2023MY?

    I thought that it's almost confirmed that there won't be another Voodoo Gt350.Too many problems with the engine... I'll bet my a$$ that there will be another high performance Mustang but I'm not sure if they would call it a Shelby. If they have a regular Coyote GT they might want to electrify...
  19. Any pre-orders yet?

    I don't know any facts but hopefully it comes down to Q4 2022 job no.1. However, looking at the Mach 1, S650 might be pushed back to Januar 2023.
  20. S650 is out there somewhere, isn't she?

    No offense Jem, but I take your comment with a grain of salt ;) You are a new member and I’m happy that joined the forum. However, I still ask myself how it is possible that a new member has seen the new S650 when nobody else has? I’m not saying you haven’t but anyone could’ve guessed that…...





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