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  1. European Pricing & Configurator Released for 2024 Mustang

    Discounts are a rare thing while enrolling a new car in the EU market... However, German dealers offer something between 5 and 15% on average shortly after. Don't know about the UK though. I bet you opt for a rhd model and offers might be scare. But since you can afford much more expensive cars...
  2. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    I would prefer a cleaner name like DarkHorse GTE, GTS or whatever. If they want to expand the brand than there cannot be a car sitting above the DH... Why would a racing team take an inferior DarkHorse for racing when they could've gone for the Cobra, Shelby etc?! They announced a street legal...
  3. Will Ford do anything special for the 60th anniversary?

    We'll most certainly get yet another average 'special anniversary' edition with 'limited' badges and stuff... The Ford Mustang GT 60th anniversary edition will most likely get/introduce a special paint as well. However, I wouldn't expect any substantial upgrades for the GT/Ecoboost/DH. We might...
  4. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    Ask yourself: is a supercharged Mustang GT 5.0 equal to a Shelby GT500? No, it's not. Heritage matters and certain names will always matter. Take the name Schumacher for example. Best F1 driver in the world, by far. However, his son has some talent but without his name he probably wouldn't get...
  5. Android Automotive it is for S650 Mustang (Ford ditching SYNC 4)

    Some news after a year: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/22/24045932/ford-android-screen-display-size-os-apps-gaming-lincoln Android Automotive is months behind schedule but it's finally coming. However, Ford does not want to rush the rollout. The F150 will get it first I assume, maybe a...
  6. S650 interior first impressions

    You can also add several other BMWs, Fords, Cadillacs, Lucids, KIA, Hyundai, some Mercedes and others to the list... Shouldn't electric cars offer more individuality?? Or so they said :D
  7. S650 interior first impressions

    Piano is good looking until you touch it :D switched my piano interior with carbon fiber. The fake stuff in the Mustang however doesn't appeal to me. I don't hate the interior it's just meh... Liked the S550 interior more but on average there aren't many pretty US made interiors... Didn't like...
  8. S650 interior first impressions

    Isn't that contradictory? I do partially agree with your exterior and interior definition but if the interior is all about layout of controls, materials used and easy placements than how on earth can a touchscreen fulfill any of that? It’s difficult to use while driving, doesn’t look like high...
  9. Dyno'd the Dark Horse @ 1000 miles

    That's it - different dyno. However, your numbers are feasible and pretty common. Most S550 GTs had somewhat of 420hp.
  10. Dyno'd the Dark Horse @ 1000 miles

    419 hp and 367 torque is quite low... They advertised some 500hp and if we calculate in an approximated drivetrain loss of 12-14% it's still low... Most S550 Mach 1s had better numbers.
  11. 2024 S650 Mustang Ecoboost in Germany

    The HP ratings should be taken with a grain of salt ;) European ratings are different than US ratings. The so called 480/486 and 500hp ratings are the best possible outcome and the vast majority of S650 will never ever have numbers close to that. Most likely the GT will have something like...
  12. How was your 2023 S650 year?

    2023 is over in a couple of hours and I would like to know how satisfied you were with the 2023 year from a Mustang enthusiast perspective. Yes, the S650 and the Dark Horse were presented in 2022 but were released in 2023. So looking back, how was your 2023? For me it was unfortunately...
  13. 2024 S650 Mustang Ecoboost in Germany

    I just look up old prices and one can still find them online... S550 GT M6 237500 zloty = 54600€ GT convertible M6 254500 zloty = 58400€ Mach 1 M6 293500 zloty... = 67500€ If those are EU prices I doubt that many will buy the car... Way overpriced. Ford increased the price by almost 15000€ in...
  14. 2026 GT500 with Manual Trans!?

    The first refresh is scheduled for 2025 - we haven't heard anything else yet. In addition, the only rumors we have regarding a potential GT500 replacement also said it would arrive around 2025. S650 released in 2022 (with delay), first refresh after 3 years is about what one can expect these...
  15. 2024 S650 Mustang Ecoboost in Germany

    Can you upload the list here or name the prices? I can't find any "leaked" prices outside of the US... Thanks in advance.
  16. 2026 GT500 with Manual Trans!?

    Latest rumors had it coming in 2025... But there haven't been any recent news regarding anything above the DarkHorse except for the GTE car, which has 0 in common with the regular Mustang.
  17. Cancelled My Order

    This is exactly the car I might cross-shop... The new Mustang will be fairly expensive in Germany and used M850s are almost as affordable... The only problems I have with the M850 are the somewhat lackluster sound and the fact that it looks almost like any other good old BMW... The Mustang on...
  18. S650 production ending in 2028 - according to new union contract

    Please just stop answering, he is clearly not able or not interested in a fact driven conversation. Don't feed the troll... Besides, everytime someone posts here I get a notification and I hope it's some meaningful content regarding the S650 lifespan...
  19. 0-60 timer off?

    + 2 seconds... Your car is on average a 5 seconds car
  20. S650 production ending in 2028 - according to new union contract

    That's not really going to be tha case for most EVs...Maybe somewhere down the line the battery has to be replaced but the batteries in older Tasla models are still doing better than the rest of their cars... Anyhow, I don't want to further participate in a useless EV vs ICE discussion...





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