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Straight from my owners manual page 166 and 167 Page 166 Your vehicle operates on regular unleaded gasoline with a minimum pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87. Some fuel stations, particularly those in high altitude areas, offer fuels posted as regular unleaded gasoline with an octane rating...

Simple engineering will tell you, make it work for max. You do not design for minimum then make it work max. You make it work at max then dumb it down.

I have no idea what rev my car is running but it seems to be fine

The thing that scares me the most about 87 in this vehicle... The RAM Hemi can run on 87 just fine, zero issues, unless you drive it under load. If you do the motor pays the price and you do not know it until it is too late. Is recommended to run 89, especially if you are running it under...

I am just a peon.

caught me before my edit LOL! Yeah, I do not go there with things especially of value. But I am just a peon.

If you have to go there... buy something else, no?

I think the biggest reason to DH is the HP with the much larger better wheel/tires... But then we debate to get the GT with HP and add larger wheels/tires. This is a discussion forum and we are discussing, Buy what you like and live to the fullest Be safe, have fun, Merry Christmas, Happy...

This man, he knows it!

Beats me, I just know I have towed a lot in my life and those stickers are usually pretty damn close - obviously, removing floor mats, less gas, 3lbs in washer fluid if it is 1/2 empty... will all paly into account. My favorite thing to do was put my car on the 4-point scale before racing...

Was only going by the same post you showed me, I even said need to verify. Go weigh your damn car. Why are you getting mad at me these things weight so damn much EDIT, A quick search shows the MT82 at 124lbs and the 10R80 at 230lbs - so unless I have the wrong transmission - 100lbs

I did forget to mention it is as the vehicle left the factory... Ok he is ~72lbs light on gas and that assumes his "1/4 tank" is right and a manual to add 100lbs (need to verify M6 vs A10 weight) there is 172lbs to my car, that mean his 3920 + 172 = 4100 lbs - pretty damn close - I also have...

- GVWR is the maximum weight a vehicle can have to be "safe" - Payload is the maximum allowable weight you can put in said vehicle and stay below GVWR - Curb weight is the vehicle weight will all fluids - including but not limited to full tank of gas, full windshield washer fluid, full oil...

My Premium Vert weighs 4230

Here is the Scat

Go weigh it, I bet it is damn close

Is that wet or dry weight? Options... Sunroof, Alpine, Plus and Driver convenience. To get a vehicle wight just look at the door jamb, take the GVWR - the payload on the (usually) tire sticker. That gives you your Curb weight - Curb weight is all fluids including a full tank of gas.

That is why they call it a Dark Horse

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