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Such a badass car. Worth noting that Farley mentioned keeping the mustang around forever is a requirement to be a CEO at Ford, I love that.

But you have to think long term. It takes about 5 years to develop a car, the policy you're referring to will almost certainly be overturned following the Trump administration. Therefore, while I'd love to see Ford say fuck it and shove a V8 in the bronco, they're probably not gonna do that.

Even if Trump did away with all emissions standards, it wouldn't really change the direction of the auto industry. Brands spent billions of dollars on hybrid and EV tech, they aren't gonna throw it out because of what one administration does, especially when those standards are pretty much...

What he's saying is all car companies have to meet a minimum fleet wide emissions target. Think of it like a class where to pass, the students have to average getting a 73% grade on the final exam, if you have really smart students who get a 100% or close to it, that pushes the average up for...

Which is why Ford is being smart by developing a mustang sedan, and yes, we're hearing from multiple sources that sedan is moving forward and will be s650 based. I know some staunch traditionalists don't like the idea, my take on the matter is as long as the coupe sticks around, I have no issue...

So they were working on a hybrid V8 program back in the day for s650 that might be started back up again. Ford's CEO seems to imply the V8 will continue past the s650. Going with a hybrid 5.0 setup combined with a slightly longer wheelbase and wider track could help Ford to comply with...

So out of curiosity, how do you think Toyota is financially justifying doing so many different sports cars and coupes at a time when those segments are in decline? We should study this so other brands can find out how to make it feasible for them as well.

I do, but wasn't this some 90s/early 2000s creation that used like an uninspired Olds engine or something? I remember liking how these things looked, but if I remember correctly, they didn't have the muscle and character of the original cobra.

I've thought this as well in the sense that they're more substantial ground up engineering efforts than what Shelby American is putting out right now. With all the small startups emerging, I feel like it's a missed opportunity for Shelby to not at least try to create some ground up products...

Like I've met car enthusiasts who think the previous gen GT 350 with the voodoo 5.2 was engineered by Shelby out of Las Vegas, and I tell them how Shelby actually had basically nothing to do with it and that car was created entirely by Ford engineers.

It's kinda confusing, but you have the Shelby company that Carroll founded that made things like the cobra and original gt 350 back in the 60s. That company today operates out of Las Vegas, and makes aftermarket performance mustangs like the super snake. They're basically a tuning shop that buys...

Basically it would be much better performing than the dark horse, while being cheaper, how much cheaper we'll see, than the gt 350. It is kinda needlessly confusing because you have Ford Shelby models like the previous gen GT 350 and gt 500, which really aren't Shelby models but are just given...

That's what I'm thinking as well. That platform is apparently super impressive and can underpin something like 8 different body styles. We know it's not gonna be used on larger vehicles, and we know the first vehicle using that platform will be a midsized truck with about a 30k starting price...

There's a VW platform that could be used on a new fiesta, I can see them making some interesting variants of that for sure.

Dang it lol. Well I guess we'll see who they ended up partnering with, VW mostly likely but we could be surprised.

It might be one of the only ways to make sports cars economically viable in the future. The mk5 supra got a lot of hate out of the gate but it seems to have a cult following now. Stock for stock, I like the baseline car a lot more than a mk4 lol.

Some more interesting news is coming out, some of these cars will be developed with partners, and some will be developed exclusively by Ford. Common consensus is it'll be Ford partnering with VW using vw's EV platforms for like a new affordable fiesta city car. That's a real possibility, but...

The focus st and fiesta st were really fun budget enthusiasts cars as well from what I've heard.

You're right, I'll try to improve on that moving forward, cheers.

Exactly.