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  1. How do we save the mustang?

    Things look really dark right now, but the two things working against coupes are their price, and practicality. People in my age group aren't having kids man for a variety of, mostly smart, reasons. So here me out, I can see a future where my generation gradually has more disposable income...
  2. How do we save the mustang?

    The issue is GM tried making a more affordable V8 6th Gen Camaro when sales were struggling. I'm sure they improved a little bit, but didn't make a massive difference. If they did, the Camaro would still be here. We need to elevate the design and platform of the car to make it worth the higher...
  3. How do we save the mustang?

    It's an improvement, but is it improved enough to command a 50-60 grand price? Most people would say no.
  4. How do we save the mustang?

    My God bro, the only time I even talked about fuel economy was when I mentioned CAFE requirements lol. More specifically, talking about how offering an EV coupe would lower Ford's fleet average, which is what helps brands keep a V8 around longer. Because you can produce more v8's while still...
  5. How do we save the mustang?

    I should clarify that I agree the coupe sales will likely drop if a sedan comes out. But my thought process is, if the sedan and coupe are able to share a platform, powertrains, some other parts, then those shared parts will be selling in higher volumes. Instead of that classis selling in 50k...
  6. How do we save the mustang?

    Sales of the coupe will dip most likely, but not more than sedan sales increase lol.
  7. How do we save the mustang?

    That's also part of my thought process as well mate. Something with these exotic proportions would not only turn the mustang coupe into a stunner, it would also mean whatever Lincoln sports coupe based on that shape would also be incredibly good looking, and therefore, could command a higher price.
  8. How do we save the mustang?

    Everytime a four and a two door are sold, it boosts sales of the two models, there's no question that if Ford made a mustang sedan, sales would double, triple as long as it was priced right. The way I see it, the coupe is compromised because of the backseat, but the backseat is next to useless...
  9. How do we save the mustang?

    What? This isn't a conversation about fuel economy lol.
  10. How do we save the mustang?

    I do see what you're saying, and I agree. But what I'm saying is a 60 grand car with 30k car proportions just isn't gonna cut it anymore.
  11. How do we save the mustang?

    My thought process is the mustang is competing with things like the c8 now, we need to find a way to ensure that people still lust after the mustang even if it's getting more expensive. A radical platform/design/proportional change is the best way to do that imo. Ask yourself which of these cars...
  12. How do we save the mustang?

    I see what you're saying, but even as the mustang body stampings have changed over the years, they've always kept the same basic proportions. Something really dramatic, a huge proportion change, would basically require turning the coupe into a 2 seater.
  13. How do we save the mustang?

    I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It's branching out, and finding a way to share parts, and especially platforms, is the best way to be cost efficient and sustainable. A huge issue with the mustang is it's an orphan platform, no other vehicle uses that platform, which is really not ideal from...
  14. How do we save the mustang?

    Going 2 seater would make it possible to radically redesign the car and make it look completely different.
  15. How do we save the mustang?

    1. Lowers Ford CAFE average which is the very reason why the V8 can still exist. This is why I proposed a smaller EV coupe for younger buyers. Not only do I believe that's something that hasn't been attempted yet that could find success, selling EVs also drags down Ford's CAFE average so Ford...
  16. How do we save the mustang?

    I know someone is gonna say "Bring back a 30 grand V8" but we need to be realistic, for a variety of reasons, that's not gonna happen, and even if it did, it wouldn't work. It didn't do much for the 6th Gen Camaro when they tried to offer a more affordable V8 trim. From where I'm standing, we...
  17. Ford has no clue who their customers our

    Wright, sells, our, I try not to nitpick, but damn.
  18. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    The c8 is a two seater and sold something like 35-40k units last year. It's not the number of seats, it's the execution. The c8 sells insanely well for a car at it's price point because again, it feels like a bargain for what you're spending. The supra and Z have the same exact issue the s650...
  19. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    My generation loves cars like these man, it's just a $800 plus car payment isn't a reality for a 22 yr old who's also trying to buy a house. I'm telling you guys, my generation still loves cool cars, and they are actually more receptive to EVs. An EV mustang coupe riding on this super affordable...
  20. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    Exactly, we're never gonna see a 30 grand V8 sports car again, it's never gonna happen. So the focus should shift to how do you make spending 50-70 grand feel like a bargain? The answer is making the mustang look more exotic.





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