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I didn't say anything about handling, I just mentioned sporty, inexpensive cars that Mustang should be competing with. But now that you mention it, Mustang is a good handling car now that it has an IRS. If the Mustang is going to turn into an SUV it might as well get the stick axle back. You...

$35K isn't too bad if that's the GT V8 model, but when it's the entry model that's just too much money for an inexpensive car built for the masses. And if the V8 goes away I'm not buying anyway. It's NOT progress getting rid of the V8. If you want something higher tech with fewer cylinders...

I've never driven any year of Taurus. I'm not interested in big 4 door cars like that. I believe you that a BMW that probably costs twice as much was better to drive, though. Common sense would tell me that. Typically Fords are meant to be the less expensive option and some compromises come...

Yes years and years ago Taurus was selling well. So was the Crown Victoria. How have Taurus sales been doing recently? Do you think there's a reason why Ford stopped building them?

You want a $100,000+ Mustang. All this new Mustang talk has me feeling grumpy. I by far prefer a Fox-sized Mustang with modern suspension. Obviously not Fox styling, but Fox SIZE. Smaller, lighter, better performance without needing too many expensive add-ons to get there. The Mustang...

So you actually DO want a Crown Victoria/500/Taurus with a Coyote engine, it sounds like. That's fine, and maybe there are lots of others like you. The Crown Vic with the 4.6 was probably under-powered for people who like some speed. Possibly that's why Ford had trouble selling them and...

There was more than enough evidence of a stolen election. The level of evidence would have been sufficient to convict someone of murder. But if the judges decide to ignore the evidence and throw the case out anyway, the American people are screwed and the election is stolen.

So this thread is about Ford starting to build Crown Vics again and calling them Mustangs? :brokenheart: 🤬🤢

Calling chocolate a pollutant!?! How dare you! All the best ice cream flavors have at least some chocolate.

Thanks for linking the chart. It shows to me that current sales of the Mustang are pretty good when compared to any but the first couple years and the release of the Mustang II, that the 2015 redesign was well-accepted, and that a redesign often produces a huge boost in Mustang sales. I don't...

Thanks for the tip. However, I doubt the validity of your claim because you haven't specified a flavor.

I'm really glad that whoever you guys keep replying to is on my ignore list. This thread really isn't bothering me much. I'm actually enjoying it. Just like coconut explosion ice cream. YUM!

I've ridden motorcycles that were way faster than any car I've owned. And they were also much less expensive. However, I have NEVER purchased a motorcycle - and I don't plan to. Acceleration is not everything. I'm not saying I'll never buy an electric car. However I will say that electric...

That dude's rant in the video is exactly what I've been talking about. EV is part of it. Governments all around the world know that most people aren't buying EVs, but yet they are going to make EVs the only option. Those governments are NOT working for we the people. America is going down...

Thanks for insulting people by calling them arrogant. I guess I'll insult back, because my feelings are hurt. I think there are a lot of Americans now who want to be told what to do. Almost 1/2 of us. And they want to be safe in their little cages. Just like any other country, different...

I don't think anyone said it was an engineering marvel. It was a very good looking design and made for people who didn't earn much money. A very cheap car. At about $20,000 in today's dollars for a Mustang back then, it wasn't meant for a family but more for young people. And I don't think...

I think you are equating the word "defiance" with violence or muscle. I think "bucking the current trends" might be another way to express what Norm was stating. The Mustang was small, simple, sporty and relatively inexpensive when it came out. And that defied the trends of the day. Current...

RIght. Some people seem to have a religious fervor about electric cars. I don't care one way or another. That's why I bought a used car last time. I thought my 2017 was better than the new cars Ford (and GM/Dodge) is currently offering. Otherwise I would have bought new. I think people who...

I'm a little younger than you, but currently I want my next "new" car to be a 2017 or so GT350. And I want to buy in 3-6 years. There's no need to deny yourself the pleasure of owning a Mustang. Just buy whatever year and model you prefer. That's why I currently own a 2017 that I bought last...

Yeah you don't need the expensive chargers. This $700 charger that must be professionally installed is enough. :crackup: