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  1. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    So where is the huge increase in base electric power generation that will be necessary to support all these EVs going to come from? Or the infrastructure to get it from where it is generated to where it's going to be used? Aren't some sections of the country at risk of brownouts/rolling...
  2. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Would a hybrid car of comparable performance really cost enough less to matter? With that "comparable performance" still being available at least as far out as the end of a 25-minute track-day session. Norm
  3. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Refusal to participate in autonomous vehicle ownership isn't the same as refusal to believe that it's coming. Somewhere I read that if a total change-over was to happen tomorrow, it'd take something like 22 years before the change could be fully implemented. I don't remember if the specific...
  4. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Don't be in such a hurry to embrace a possible future that hasn't been fully thought out yet. All those blue-sky promises are made with agendas in mind and potential downsides ignored or downplayed. Are you really expecting enough of these sales to make this niche self-sustaining (let alone...
  5. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    It's not just about the number of cylinders. Or on any assumption that the current 5-liter class will be maintained - how big each of those 8 cylinders are matters. too. Not counting the flathead motors, Ford has had V8 engines as regular production fitment from as small as 221 CID (3.6L) up to...
  6. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Perhaps history will repeat itself . . . originally, hotrodding came about because the performance of affordable mainstream cars wasn't good enough for a few folks. We could see something similar with respect to the subjective impressions of actually driving not being enjoyable enough for a...
  7. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    All that complexity (and likely the added pounds over what it could otherwise weigh) simply flies in the face of what the Mustang has (mostly) been. Whether you look at it as a sports car, a muscle car, or even a hotrod, the 'KISS principle' still applies. I know myself well enough to realize...
  8. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Yup . . . more or less. Norm
  9. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Better still would be a short-stroke Voodoo of around 4.5L. With a proper 0 - 180 - 180 - 0 crank and 4 into 1 exhaust. Norm
  10. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    What Porsche is doing is being done for the right reasons. And the Mustang is to Ford what the 911 is to Porsche. Norm
  11. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Easy enough to say when you haven't been through the situation where one mfr after another stops building a segment of cars the way you'd always bought them. What sounds like 'having an open mind' to some is more like welcoming the early onset of an invasive and potentially overwhelmingly...
  12. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    I'm not thinking that at all, although without the environmental and fuel usage pressures hybrids would be no more than experimental curiosities. There are people at all socioeconomic levels who simply must have "the latest thing" or "the very limited production thing" for reasons involving...
  13. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Financially anyway. The cost is going to come out of the fun of driving. After you've had your couple seconds of acceleration fun coming off a traffic light you might as well be driving a 2.0L Fusion or perhaps a C-max. Norm
  14. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Yes. A risk of contaminating the Mustang's image. The damage would perhaps not be as severe as if the transverse-engine'd FWD Probe would have done, but I don't see it as being benign either. Unlike the gradual evolution of IC engine tech, hybrid technology isn't being driven by...
  15. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    So how compatible with a manual transmission (or even a DSG) is that going to be? Norm
  16. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Isn't that a question that Ford has to anticipate will be answered in the affirmative? I can see a round or two of study putting a temporary hold on release to the public unless they've already gone through whatever scenarios might either directly or indirectly reduce demand for hybrids and...
  17. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    I think you have to also consider whether the cost of developing and producing a hybrid Mustang can truly be covered by the revenue generated by Mustang sales alone and still leave a profit. The Mustang needs to be too big a seller to be Ford's loss-leader to get people into the showrooms, and I...
  18. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Note also that the youngest generation is on average waiting longer to even start driving, never mind car buying. The need and even the interest isn't there, at least not yet. Neither of which line up with enjoyment of the driving part. For your "general population", a car is little more than...
  19. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    In any engineering problem - which this is - there is always a consequence. I'm not smart enough to know what it might be, just aware enough that something adverse awaits. Maybe global cooling, if enough solar radiation is diverted from keeping things like the soil warm to providing electric...
  20. Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

    Over the years, many automotive names have been retired. What makes this time so special? Especially when the 'new' promises to be so much different from the 'old'? You might heed your own personally-directed advice . . . Norm





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