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I think you’re likely correct, simply because there’s no big money anymore in going that route. And think of the development costs in having to comply with government regs, etc. But mainly they’d have to compete with big factories who have virtually unlimited resources at their disposal...

Thanks, appreciate your tolerance! BTW, I am constantly amazed that PDI “techs” never seem to be able to remove the spacers. Out of a combination of five Mach 1s and DHs I purchased between 2022 and now, how many would you guess had the shipping spacers left in? You guessed it, every one!

As I mentioned in my post, I do understand how they work. No explanation necessary. And I get that they’re the latest and greatest. What I don’t understand is how such a techno-wonder translates to a discernible advantage on the street, even in very high-spirited driving. Especially in track...

Maybe on the window sticker but don’t forget to add the obligatory specialty/scarcity/TOTL trim premium. Then of course there’s the ever present ADM. All one needs to do is look at what no-to-low mileage 2022 examples are going for today. Some primo examples are still fetching $140-150K. I don’t...

Appreciate the response. Forgive my literal nature but you had none in the back then, right?

I’m glad you mentioned the DCT. I‘ve been meaning to ask: OK, so what? There must be a big deal but I can’t honestly figure out why it’s so much better than the A10 for non-boosted guys. The A10 has three more speeds worth of torque multiplication and the ’24 up units are smooth as can be. Put...

And does it make any difference on a handling package car? I know they show some on the PDI sheet and there’s a lot of talk about how the PDI chimps often leave the front ones in but I’ve never seen anybody mention the rears. If I could get down to check them myself I would. If anybody knows...

I had a beautiful ‘24 GT Premium and it was a great car. I traded it for a ‘24 Dark Horse and it‘s almost like they’re not even built on the same planet. Very little point of comparison IMO. If you’re comparing the two cars and even mention things like stereo, heated seats, etc. I’d say the...

Good grief. TLDR but easier, safer and probably cheaper just to trade cars.

2, 5 and 11 right?

Yes, I have looked at these things. The only difference I can find is that the ‘24 builder oddly doesn't mention the aero front splitter while the ‘25 does. Over the years I’ve learned that it’s not uncommon for this kind of stuff from Ford to be quirky. I think it’s safe to assume that those...

Ummm, yes. Kinda implies that through context and mentions it in the thread title as well. Only other possibility would be horsepower and there’s no context for that.

Yeah, it really doesn’t make sense when you think about it. I bought one of my ‘24s in December and the other ‘24 about a week ago. Both are HP cars and I assure you the dealers had no problem selling either one to me. So what is the difference in Ford’s liability whether the cars are ‘24s or...

Have they even built or taken orders for any ‘25 DH handling package cars? I always heard they wouldn’t build summer tire cars in the winter.

I saw in a couple of earlier threads where guys said some of the ‘24 DH HP items are now coming standard on the non-HP ‘25 DH. Nobody says exactly what those items are. Any idea?

Wow, that’s a good question that I’m not qualified to answer never having driven a Mach 1 with any kind of res delete. I thought about doing it many times since I really like loud (I run 100% of the time in track mode, period) but always chickened out due to problems keeping the exhaust tips...

When someone does back to back runs on the same dyno on the same day with the same car, it doesn’t require an expert to recognize the validity. I have no scientific idea but I’d say that makes sense.

No.

Sure, but to zero advantage. So, why?

If some independent tuner did in fact “crack the code” I can’t imagine sacrificing the warranty for an unproven experiment. I’m telling you guys who haven’t driven one, this car is faster than it looks on paper and has gobs of torque. Now if you can actually use more than 500 hp where you are...