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  1. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    It was only a joke 😁 People must love tablets in cars now otherwise they wouldn't put them there. But I don't know anyone or any car enthusiast who does tbh. Nice example is Mach E with the atrocious vertical tablet, that's a lot bigger abomination than this. At least in Tesla it works fine...
  2. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    If it means mere phone for 1k$ and replacing it every year then yeah, it's a pejorative to me, utter waste of money and materialism at its best. 😁 Sorry, couldn't help it. I don't like this Apple approach.
  3. Dark Horse vs Mach 1 - faster, heavier?

    Probably similar, remains to be seen. Looks like Mustang will be going all for Pirellis, probably because of cost reasons, they are not very praised by people compared to Michelins. One could say Cup2s are a track benchmark and PS4S street benchmark.
  4. Dark Horse vs Mach 1 - faster, heavier?

    Depends if on the dragstrip or track. With Cup2s Mach 1 is not far from GT350 on the track, it's more about the driver's skills than anything. I don't think 20 hp will cause big different on the strip either, not as auto vs manual kind of difference either. We'll see. For normal road it won't...
  5. S650 incl. Dark Horse will arrive in Europe late 2023 + First pics of Euro model

    Any idea if it will be basically only for late 2023-2024? Because Euro 7 is supposed to come into effect in 2025. I guess they could play it with lowering amount of sold cars like they're doing now and averaging fleet emissions with all other cars sold being hybrids or EV from 2025. But there's...
  6. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    Must be your social bubble. Generation Y has a huge span, 1981 - 1996. I would like to see 40 year olds that are still fed by their parents, lol. Even most of 1996 millenials ended university by now. Of course it takes many years of work to be able to buy (new) car like Dark Horse, instead of...
  7. Video: Dark Horse startup and acceleration / exhaust sounds 🔥

    Nah, maybe 10%, the rest is still very much Mustang, S550 with different lights. Nothing wrong with Camaro anyway :like:
  8. Why doesn't Ford make the rotary transmission found in the Shelby GT 500 available to all Mustangs?

    This. Paddle shifters are great for some custom rpm modulation fun, when you want it.
  9. Video: Dark Horse startup and acceleration / exhaust sounds 🔥

    Many people prefer deeper Coyote rumble over raspy Voodoo. I definitely like my Mach 1's more. But to each his own, GT350 is an amazing car. I think I came to a personal conclusion that S650 is great looking, if you're not comparing it to S550. I find no good reason to "upgrade" from Mach 1...
  10. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    Just reading the CNET article linked elsewhere and it says "with the option to have both displays integrated together in a single curved piece of glass".
  11. This is how buttons work..

    CNET article says "capacitive touch buttons". :lipssealed:
  12. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    Some cars have that, it's about seat and steering wheel position. S550's digital dash cluster is fine, they could have just integrated the center display in this 911 way, with vents and row of toggles below it, temperature and few buttons kept too. That central display is just flawless here. Not...
  13. Higher end halo models as daily drivers

    I'm curious about that, is that really true that these RWD handle snow with snow tyres fine? Haven't tried it myself yet but from all the stories I heard from BMW owners it kinda ends up like this: RWD like this seem unusable to me in snow 😁
  14. The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    They should have integrated the bigger display properly and inconspicuously. Easily doable in a retro style with double brow but fresh and modern and with sufficient button support kept. I mean why not just copy Porsche 911 😁 Could anyone protest? 😁
  15. S650 Mustang Fanboi Thread

    I paid 71k€ for Mach 1 with optional wheels and alarm in 2021, and price got raised by 4k or so since then. Dark Horse will be more like 75-80 k€ by 2024... The modern interior will be better for new buyers, it's a current trend, hard to fight against it... Doubt many will want to switch from...
  16. 777 Mach 1 bumper conversion for 2022 Mustang GT

    You don't want that. You'll be frowned upon like all those guys with GT500 bumper on a GT :giggle:
  17. New S650 Mustang render from Road & Track

    Shelbys not available in Europe is simply because of emissions and homologation again. It's not worth their money to have it approved for small amount of cars sold. Changed parts to comply with local laws, lowering power to lower emissions a bit. Paying for all the WLTP testing for different...
  18. Ford needs to offer rwd and AWD on the new Mustang!!! Changing traction via a toggle switch.

    On prepared surface right? We don't have those in Europe, I guess. I got around 13 seconds 1/4 mile too on normal road in drag mode. Comparing your best numbers on drag strips with our numbers from normal roads makes it look weird, haha. Don't think 20 hp less would make 1 sec difference. Either...
  19. Ford's CEO Wants the Next Mustang to Be a Poster Car

    USA is a big country, you have Raptors for all that free space, blasting freely in all the wilderness. Everything is small and dense here so we get the small cars instead 😁
  20. With the s650 GT being an AWD hybrid v8 - would it still be considered a muscle car?

    I have 10R80 😁 Why not buy GT500? Because it's not sold in Europe obviously. Imported car costs twice more than Mach 1 which is silly to me. I don't need the power, 500 hp is totally fine for me. Otherwise look-wise I love GT500, the rear end is almost the same on Mach 1 which is great. It's...





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