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Nice find. This confirms at least some performance shops will have access to be able to tune the 7th gen mustangs.

I expect roush will also have offerings for the s650.

We will have to wait and see if the pcm is locked for aftermarket tuners that don’t have deep connections with ford.
 
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I presume they're going to tune it via piggy-back, since the PCM is locked?
Just saw StangMode's latest YouTube video where his "sources" are telling him that Ford will allow preferred supercharger manufactors (i.e. Whipple, Roush, etc.) to have access to the locked PCM. Which means canned tunes from Ford's select manufactorers. The PCM will be essentially locked with the availabilty of over-the-air updates. So your local tuner will be SOL tuning the S650 until there is a workaround or the locked PCM is cracked.

Here's where he states this starting at 2:31 in this video:

 

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AKA "Until our ECU is hacked you can only run the mods we approve."
 


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AKA "Until our ECU is hacked you can only run the mods we approve."
Ford could be heading for very murky legal waters here. If they “approve” certain canned tunes, is that a tacit admission Ford *guarantees*, and therefore warranties them?
 

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Ford could be heading for very murky legal waters here. If they “approve” certain canned tunes, is that a tacit admission Ford *guarantees*, and therefore warranties them?
Not if they aren't sold via Ford. No. If Ford sold/installed it then that confusion would exist.
 

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Just saw StangMode's latest YouTube video where his "sources" are telling him that Ford will allow preferred supercharger manufactors (i.e. Whipple, Roush, etc.) to have access to the locked PCM. Which means canned tunes from Ford's select manufactorers. The PCM will be essentially locked with the availabilty of over-the-air updates. So your local tuner will be SOL tuning the S650 until there is a workaround or the locked PCM is cracked.

Here's where he states this starting at 2:31 in this video:

I wonder what will happen the first time they push an over-the-air update and forget to exempt the supercharger versions...

I wonder what the response would be if they pushed an over the air update that "de-tuned" everyone's stock 650 from 480 to 440 for "reliability reasons"
 

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just give the hptunners community time... Dodge and GM said both our ECUs and TCMs are locked and then, comunnity tuned them like nothing...
I just wish there will be an "oficial tune" TT option for the gen 4 coyote as here, where I live at 8500+ feets over sea level... NA engines lost about 30% of their power so a random kid on a GOLF, BMW 235i, etc will destroy any mustang, camaro and vette naturally aspirated on straight line
 

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just give the hptunners community time... Dodge and GM said both our ECUs and TCMs are locked and then, comunnity tuned them like nothing...
I just wish there will be an "oficial tune" TT option for the gen 4 coyote as here, where I live at 8500+ feets over sea level... NA engines lost about 30% of their power so a random kid on a GOLF, BMW 235i, etc will destroy any mustang, camaro and vette naturally aspirated on straight line
C8 and Z4/Supra ECUs are still locked...
 

 
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