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[ame] Ya, that was Pobst summary of how the cars felt as well :rolleyes: If only they could figure out a way to make these cars as fun to drive as a 08 Mustang GT or a 2010 Subaru legacy.

I understand what you are saying but that line of adapting vs sticking to core fundamentals is fine line to walk. GM/Ford/Chrysler got themselves into trouble by not listening to their customers and just sticking with the core fundamentals and what it knew, everyone learned their lesson and are...

I would also suggest that there is a third group, one that likes the v8 and prefers the v8 but still understands the market place is dynamic and changing and that manufacturers need to change with it.

I'm not going post anything confidential. People can choose to believe or not believe what i'm posting it's no skin off my back.

Norm i get it, it becomes difficult when your wants and desires stop fitting into the bulk of the market so decisions made don't reflect your core ideals, but your statements of fact which are at most based on strong opinions are inaccurate. What you did accurately state is the mustang...

A comparison of a performance car hybrid system to a prius is just as nonsensical as comparing the V8 Mustang to a Nissan Sentra with a CVT transmission.

There will still be a normal v8 but the hybrid will not be a electric motor in combination with a gas v8

It is 100% not the recycled system from the fusion. It will be a standalone purpose built system for the mustang

Absolutely, it happens multiple times as part of the stage gate process to bring something to market. My point is that this analysis is based on assumptions and while yes it would have already gotten the green light based on these assumptions and insights, it won't be until actual sales start...

The question of profit will only be able to be answered after the first few years of sales so until then its just speculation, but the addition of the hybrid mustang is not being offered as a lost leader, that is something companies would often do with a halo car such as a GT or a car that...

I agree... any company that doesn't listen to what its consumers want (through whatever the forum (no pun intended)) is not long for this world. I will however offer up one quote that seems relevant: "if i always listened to my customers i would have built a faster horse" - Henry Ford

Monitoring forums/looking at them and using them to solely drive decision making are two very different things. Modern consumer companies gain insights from all different places, mainstream media, social media, focus groups, consumer insight data. This information is highly segmented and...

There have been so many in this thread that have gone off the deep end and posted knee jerk emotional responses to this announcement. Thank you for actually understanding the situation holistically and making a thoughtful response. I am in the same boat as you, while i understand and can...

I never suggested that it was. My attempt here is to only explain to those that are stating that a hybrid mustang is a terrible idea, something no one wants, the death of the V8, etc etc etc how decision making at a large organization happens, and the factors being considered. There is a lot...

Every day :lol: two options as opposed to three or four or one is a arbitrary one without the necessary information. Trust me when i say that ford is spending a lot of money and resources to provide options based on consumer insights. Most companies will do focus groups, limited market...

Unfortunately today's consumer demands more options than ever before. walk into any grocery store and look at the beer aisle, the wine aisle, the barbecue sauce aisle hell any aisle, the proliferation of choices are enormous. If Ford took your advice and rolled all its money into V8's and got...

Sorry but its the same thing, 3 engines is still 3 engines, yes the engines were simpler back then by today's standards but the tools and testing methodologies were also less sophisticated. As for your point on the 4 vs. 6, they came out with the 4, determined market reaction to it, and once...

I agree in principal but in this instance we are really only talking about the difference between two (ecoboost, v8), and three (ecoboost, v8 and hybrid), i'd hardly call that over saturation. For those reminiscing back to the original mustang, for my car (1968), they had an I6, a 289, 2x...

Anyone who has lived over the past 20 years has experienced this, everyone has also experienced an elected official who they didn't vote for, society does not always reflect the needs of every individual but should reflect the needs of the majority of the masses. I think its safe to say that...

Once again thanks for your helpful contributions.