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  1. 2026 FX Package revealed in new Adriatic Blue Metallic color

    I guess most people seem to hate the wheels. I don't mind them at all. I think it's cool Ford did a departure from the norm. I wouldn't pay for the wheels, but I do kind of like them. The blue and white look terrific together. I like the interior, too. The only part I really don't like...
  2. May 2025 Mustang Sales Figures

    All the stuff about tariffs is fun, but Ford increased prices on Mustangs in 2025 before Trump took office. Then, Ford announced a sale after the tariffs were started. The sale partially reduces prices, but the sale prices are still higher than last year's "normal" prices. Bottom line for me...
  3. Another dire sales report [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    I'm here because I WANT a new Mustang. I'm glad you like your new Mustang, but not many people are buying them anymore. I want Mustang to become a best seller that's hard to resist.
  4. Another dire sales report [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

    I feel like new cars just aren't better than something built 8-10 years ago. So why upgrade? I would like to want a new Mustang, but I prefer not to have direct injection, PWTA cylinder bores, over 4,000 lbs weight or a huge price tag. And I don't think the issues are specific to Ford. Heck...
  5. 2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

    Like everyone said - it's a combination of a lot of things. High interest rates. High insurance costs. People are having trouble affording basics, and Mustangs are a luxury item. Modern cars spy on their owners. High price. Performance didn't improve measurably. I think those are the biggest...
  6. Official 2025 Mustang GTD Figures: 815 HP / 664 LB-FT / 202 MPH Top Speed

    The people who own a GT3 Porsche are very, very similar types of people to those who will end up with a GTD. Similar types of income, similar types of jobs, similar in how they treat their cars. Yes, most GTDs won't get raced, but most Mustangs in general don't get taken to the track. Or if...
  7. [RUMOR] Ford Mustang GTD Lite Under Consideration

    AWD is not really needed so much with a transaxle. And I would use something NA like you are suggesting as well to improve usability even more. I think the less costly NA mill with a cheaper manual transaxle and the GTD SLA front and rear suspension would be a much more compelling package for...
  8. 2024 Dark Horse Tires - Trofeo RS

    Yes, the tires will wear out quickly, but they produce amazing best lap times for videos and magazines. Plus amazingly short stopping distances. I prefer ~300 tread wear rated tires for a performance car. Yes, your times aren't as fast, but I'm not winning trophies no matter which tire I use...
  9. 2025 Mustang GTD World Debut at Le Mans! 🏁

    The supercharger doesn't 100% guarantee a car will be slow on track. It's actually possible to cool one. Hellcats and Demons do seem to have great straight line acceleration even after a number of laps. I do agree with the weight argument. More cubic inches is a better way to get to the...
  10. 2025 Mustang GTD World Debut at Le Mans! 🏁

    Yes. Now if Ford would only offer a "real" version that all of us can buy. I hate when the best styling is reserved for a car that is unobtainable. I would consider a Mustang with the right equipment for $100K. I would be willing to forgo all carbon fiber, the supercharger and the DCT...
  11. Video: 2025 Mustang GTD Hits The Nurburgring

    That's a LOT of roll stiffness.
  12. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    The stickiest, fastest wearing out tires of any street car.
  13. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    That's a tire adhesion test. Not sure if you're really serious, but I'll explain as if you don't understand. One stop, the brakes can always lock up the tires. So the time/distance to stop weak link is tire grip, not brakes. No one is questioning that the DH has super sticky and soft tires...
  14. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    Here's a Cobra. It's made by Shelby, not Ford. And it is legendary. Hopefully Ford paid Shelby when they used the Cobra name. Hopefully they paid for the name Terminator as well - to the extent that name was used in their literature. Some of us remember that name came from a series of movies.
  15. Dark Horse vs Shelby

    I don't think I'm stuck in the past. I don't have any allusions that a 1965 GT350 is a better street driving machine than the recent GT350. Ford definitely did a better job making the GT350 a special car than Shelby did back in the day. I think of the Voodoo as being essentially a Coyote -...
  16. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    For some reason I had the impression that the latest NSX was a sales failure. Not sure why. Remember that adding more stuff to a car is absolutely going to make it more expensive and heavy. There's a DH for sale locally for $80+ thousand. Are you ready for a $100,000 and 4,500 lb Mustang?
  17. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    Superchargers are better than turbos generally in that there is typically less lag and the power curve can be more linear (in addition to functioning better from a performance standpoint). But they add a lot of weight and complexity to a vehicle and there can be some disadvantages with regards...
  18. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    YES! I was thinking about that car as well. High HP or torque is never a problem as long as the engine is naturally aspirated and the power curve is fairly linear. The throttle has an infinite number of positions between all the way up and all the way down. However, with a turbo you can get...
  19. Ford Teases "New Addition to the Mustang Stable" Coming in 2025

    I'm really hoping for a Mustang GT based on the GTD, but all steel/aluminum body for lower cost and with a manual transaxle. Most of the part designs are available and just need to be set up for higher volume production at a lower cost. Yes, Ford could take the Dark Horse, add a supercharger...
  20. Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2024 - Dark Horse Mustang Results

    Yes, probably the Mach 1 tires are better, I guess. Or they are roughly equivalent and since the DH is heavier, it doesn't corner as well. As to the DH gaining weight, I don't think Ford has ever made light weight much of a priority. With the GT350, they did get it down to 3,760 even with...





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