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  1. analogman

    2024 S650 Mustang V8 to Approach 500 Horsepower

    It's great to see a naturally aspirated V8 combined with a manual transmission in the new Mustang, and tweaking a little more power out of it. Kudos to Ford for keeping a stick in a time when more and more manufacturers are abandoning them and going exclusively slushbox. But the interior of...
  2. analogman

    The new dashboard is a big mistake IMO

    Bingo. It's all about the money. The reason for the digital dash is the same as why most companies do anything: it's cheaper, and to make more money. To plagiarize myself from another thread (one of several on this topic) - Several studies have shown that digital dashes in cars are more...
  3. analogman

    Poll- Do you like the new interior?

    I don't know about Ford 'dying' if it didn't follow the other automotive lemmings into the digital dash dumpster fire. Of course time marches on. But not all changes are good. Most definitions of 'progress' usually involve improvements and enhancements, making things better. If one's definition...
  4. analogman

    Poll- Do you like the new interior?

    :crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup: I certainly hope so!!!!
  5. analogman

    Poll- Do you like the new interior?

    The market and sales of the car will decide how people feel about it. People ultimately vote with their wallets, which is all Ford cares about. For me, it would be an absolute, non-negotiable deal-breaker. There is no way in Earth I would ever consider buying the car with that instrument...
  6. analogman

    Poll- Do you like the new interior?

    RE: the base interior/instrument panel Don't know if this is a photo or not, looks like it could be a rendering. If it's at all even remotely close, IMHO it's a nightmare, an absolute dumpster fire. How any company could hot-glue a couple of iPads to the dash and call it an instrument panel...
  7. analogman

    If s650 is the last gen of mustangs to have the v8, what will the following gens be?

    A friend and neighbor of mine is a retired Ford senior executive, who is still active with the company. He tells me Ford's plan right now is for the S650 to be the last ICE Mustang, and for the next generation (2028?) to be all-electric, a coupe version of the Mach-E. At the same time, Ford's...
  8. analogman

    What will it take to save the V8 Mustang?

    FWIW: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/evs-no-longer-an-economic-alternative-to-ices-as-supercharging-rates-go-through-the-roof-188884.html This is the obvious and inevitable result when a majority of electricity in the U.S. is still generated from fossil fuel (natural gas). Gas prices go...
  9. analogman

    What will it take to save the V8 Mustang?

    The scientific data on climate change are overwhelming. We need to save our planet and do whatever we can to combat climate change. After all, this is the only planet we have, so not killing it - and ourselves in the process - seems like a really good idea. The horrific forest fires on the west...
  10. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    Of course. But it’s another layer of complexity and also having to rely on the switch over to the back-up system I don’t like. With mechanical (and most other) systems, simplicity usually = reliability.
  11. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    Yikes! I didn't realize the C8 was brake-by-wire! Imagine how the Tesla situation would have gone, with the blue screen and death lock-up of all controls including the brakes too! There's no upside to losing brakes, in any situation. As much as the C8 offers super-car performance and a...
  12. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    This story is a great example of why you don't want to have critical car controls relegated to a touch screen: https://jalopnik.com/tesla-screen-freezes-at-83-mph-on-freeway-report-1848799148
  13. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    As @shogun32 said, I’ve found the reality of the voice commands to be virtually worthless. Why have to slowly and carefully enunciate and repeat a command several times, only to still have it not get it right? And depending on the weather, I might actually change the HVAC settings a number of...
  14. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    Capacitive screen touch controls for HVAC are an absolute deal breaker for me, no matter how wonderful the rest of a car might be. It's a safety issue because you have to take your eyes off the road to hunt and peck for the right spot on the screen to adjust temperature or fan speed. Even if...
  15. analogman

    S650 Mustang INTERIOR First Look Spyshots! + More Exterior Shots

    From the peeks at what can be seen, it looks more generic, blander, sanitized, and less interesting than the current car. Some call the current car 'retro', but those design elements are part of the Mustang personality and identity. This 7G interior looks like it could be in any car. It doesn't...
  16. analogman

    “Next Gen” Mustang Will be Electric (EV) Only Claims Autoline

    I keep reading about how the 'future' is all about 'electric cars'. I'm all for the 'future' and saving the planet by combatting global warming (after all, I'd like to be a part of it), but I have a few problems with this. First, I don't care how much torque an electric motor produces at zero...
  17. analogman

    Rumor [Autocar]: 2023 Mustang will be AWD Hybrid V8 (in Europe Only)

    My premise is based on the observations that 1) the platform will be shared with the Explorer and Aviator, both of which are very unlikely to have a manual transmission option, 2) manual transmissions account for an increasingly smaller portion of sales of any model. Even the C8 Corvette is...
  18. analogman

    Rumor [Autocar]: 2023 Mustang will be AWD Hybrid V8 (in Europe Only)

    If the car really will be a hybrid with AWD, I personally would have less than zero interest in it. First because a hybrid means it will be heavier and more complicated, and second, because either a hybrid and/or AWD means it will almost certainly only be available with an automatic...
  19. analogman

    S650 cancelled?

    Why, bee bop? Because Hackett and the Ford family don't care about what happens when/if the SUV/CUV craze dies down, because that's in the future. That could be years away. they only care about the stock price right now. The only two ways to raise profits are either increase sales (the...
  20. analogman

    S650 cancelled?

    Swamp-Yankee, what you say is completely logical and rational - but that's not how most companies operate these days. To make Mustang buyers happy in the future would require investing hundreds of millions of dollars over several years to design, develop, engineer, and manufacture the S650...


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