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True, and I assume Ford would do the same as Tesla and simply change the price on the website from week to week, month to month as demand dictates. I am also not sure if we are ever going back to huge supply levels in the auto industry anymore, which will normalize pricing a bit more. The...

I hear you but these are supposed to be drivers cars with a focus on fun and driving engagement. If you want fast, then skip the slow shifting 10 speed auto and get an EV with instant torque that doesn't need to shift at all. You will be the stop light king. 😉 I had a Tesla Model 3...

In general Tremecs can be a little notchy, especially in 2nd gear until they are warmed up.

Good to hear, this is why the dealership model needs to die.

Yeah, if you are patient these DHs will eventually become readily available at MSRP. The typical Mustang buyer is going to finance a $70k car and with rates at 6-7% it will put the DH out of reach for a lot of folks. I experienced the same thing when I was buying my Blackwing. Started out...

If this is some "forever" car then I guess you may be able to justify paying whatever for it but I like to switch things up every couple of years and don't want to get crushed on depreciation. Same thing happened with the C8s now, people are buying them for under MSRP. If you order a DH with...

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I never understood why Ford kept putting that MT82 garbage in everything other than their top Mustang trims. GT350, Mach 1 and DH all get the Tremec. Dodge, Chevy, Cadillac all use Tremec in all their performance vehicles. Ford must have negotiated one hell of deal on that MT82. I am sure...

I can't stomach paying over MSRP for a car that is already overpriced.

Yeah, I am a Corvette fan, owned a modified C5 Z06, C7 Stingray and C7 GrandSport. I was able to test drive the C8 Z51 on track and it handles fantastic but I found it pretty boring unless you were going 10/10ths. It is also too quiet, even with the performance exhaust. I think if they...

I hear you and I am not advocating for EVs but keep in mind that they come with at least an 8 year/100,000 mile warranty on the battery and drive units. Also, EV batteries don't cost $50k. A Coyote 5.0 crate engine is about $10k, add in a transmission and you are about the price of a new 75kWh...

Agreed, you just have to decide what itch you want to scratch. I am coming from a C7 Gransport and ZL1 but wanted to try something new. The Blackwing strikes a good balance of fun to drive and being easier to live with on a daily basis.

My biggest gripe is that you only get a Tremec if you step up to the Dark Horse. If the MT82 is so good then why don't they use it in the Dark Horse, GT350 or Mach 1? Because its not. https://www.moderndriveline.com/why-ford-chose-the-tremec-tr-3160-manual-transmission-for-the-2021-mach-1/...

I am not surprised. The C8 is a nice vehicle, a lot more refined, improved interior, etc. but it is too quiet and while the DCT rips through shifts it gets old pretty quick. I drove one on track and the handling is incredible and the best part of the car for me. That said, you can't really...

Agreed, C8 much better sport cars for the money, but it is missing the manual transmission, which is a deal breaker for a lot of folks that enjoy the driving engagement of a manual. A lot for guys traded their C7 manuals for C8s and many of them love the car but got bored after a while and...

Yep, you will have a better chance getting an allocation with a standard ZL1. The 1LEs have a lot of constraints. Some think they may be holding out parts for the 2024 Collectors Editions. I sold my ZL1 about 8 months ago. Great car but TBH it is too fast for the street to enjoy. It needs...

Yeah it is a lot. I also owned a 2019 C7 Grand Sport and a 2021 ZL1. The ZL1 was $65k USD but has 150 more horsepower. Part of it is inflation, the other part is they are just charging more because they can get away with it. The Camaro and Challenger are dead so the Mustang will be the only...

True, but the Hellcat and Camaro platforms will be around 10 years old pretty soon. The Camaro visibility issue will still remain and the interior is already starting to feel dated. The Hellcat will still be the heavy muscle car with lackluster handling. The biggest issue will be that these...

Best: Tremec 6-speed in Dark Horse Worst: MT-82 garbage 6-speed in GT