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  1. Mustang406

    Dyno'd the Dark Horse @ 1000 miles

    419 on STD deviation.....ouch. SAE is typically lower than standard and what most people use.
  2. Mustang406

    Throttle House: Dark Horse Mustang vs 392 Challenger vs Camaro ( Drag Race , Roll Race & Track Times )

    I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that Mustang is also competing with M2 now. Darkhorse HP starts at around what the M2 Competition is and a fully optioned DH is in the price range of an M4.
  3. Mustang406

    Throttle House: Dark Horse Mustang vs 392 Challenger vs Camaro ( Drag Race , Roll Race & Track Times )

    Comparing to the M2 it might just be a better all around car than a S650 Mustang. How many people cross-shop a Dodge and a BMW?
  4. Mustang406

    Throttle House: Dark Horse Mustang vs 392 Challenger vs Camaro ( Drag Race , Roll Race & Track Times )

    What makes you think the Mach 1 was modified? Because they added fog lamps and painted the stock rims red? If that car had any performance modifications I think the Throtle House guys would have said so. They are too professional not to.
  5. Mustang406

    Throttle House: Dark Horse Mustang vs 392 Challenger vs Camaro ( Drag Race , Roll Race & Track Times )

    "Modified" by having same tires? Lol. Since that was a 3 year old customers car were those Cup 2s even new? I'm sorry I just expect that a car costing close to 80k would obliterate the previous model.
  6. Mustang406

    Throttle House: Dark Horse Mustang vs 392 Challenger vs Camaro ( Drag Race , Roll Race & Track Times )

    My favorite part of the video was when they said if the 21 Mach 1 was on the Trofeos that they think it would have a faster lap than the DH.
  7. Mustang406

    Dyno traps

    I misunderstood what you were asking. Several places have removed the carbon traps but not the air filters. I would never run without an air filter. Removing the carbon traps alone gives around 2-3 hp. On the 22 and 23 it was more like 9-10.
  8. Mustang406

    Dyno traps

    Several places have done this. Check YouTube for results. The gains from removing the traps are mostly insignificant. Not like the 22 and 23 models
  9. Mustang406

    Any downside to using 0W - 30 ?

    Ford used to recommend 5w20 on coyotes. Every gearhead on the planet knew 5w30 would be better. I've owned 5 Coyote engines and on the ones that had 5w20 I drained it out after purchase and put in 5w30. Never once have I had BBQ or typewriter tick. Have I been lucky? Maybe. But Ford now says...
  10. Mustang406

    Stock Dark Horse Mustang Dyno Results: 428 WHP / 379 LB-FT (Hennessey Performance)

    I would assume they are using SAE correction but it doesn't say for certain. But that is definitely an auto so 428 is pretty good.
  11. Mustang406

    Stock Dark Horse Mustang Dyno Results: 428 WHP / 379 LB-FT (Hennessey Performance)

    These dynos are good for ballpark figures and talking points/bragging rights. Dynos need to be calibrated and no dyno has the same atmospheric conditions everyday. Also there are several different correction factors that will change the outcome
  12. Mustang406

    Stock Dark Horse Mustang Dyno Results: 428 WHP / 379 LB-FT (Hennessey Performance)

    If that is SAE correction factor than 428 from the auto is good. If that is standard then not so much. Wish they showed what correction factor they used.
  13. Mustang406

    Tested Performance Numbers: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse (by Car and Driver)

    Performance vehicles are all about Performance. The numbers do matter to most people. Competition is human nature and while you personally might be perfectly happy with your Darkhorse possibly not out performing the 21 Mach 1 there will be people who are definitely not happy with that. If...
  14. Mustang406

    Stangmode 1/4 mile run

    Normally I agree with you but at the price they want for these S650s especially the Dark Horse, out performing the outgoing model shouldn't be in question.
  15. Mustang406

    Stangmode 1/4 mile run

    The S650 gained weight, it lost torque, and allegedly gained a small amount of horsepower. The dynos and professional testing and now owners in the wild have discovered it isn't performing much better (if better at all) than the S550. The A10 dynos have all been done in higher gears due to the...
  16. Mustang406

    Tested Performance Numbers: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse (by Car and Driver)

    Yes. I didn't want to get into gross vs net lol.
  17. Mustang406

    Tested Performance Numbers: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse (by Car and Driver)

    American cars 100% positive advertise engine horsepower not wheel.
  18. Mustang406

    Tested Performance Numbers: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse (by Car and Driver)

    Steeda did use premium gas for that run (which was the best run btw). The reason I say 408 is "meh" is that GTs are making the same power. And the 21 Mach 1 made the same power. And yeah same dyno but different day the 21 Mach 1 is supposedly 20 hp less than the Dark Horse yet actually Steeda...
  19. Mustang406

    Tested Performance Numbers: 2024 Mustang Dark Horse (by Car and Driver)

    They say in the video they drove it 180 miles and put 93 in the tank before they tested it lol. 408 is.....meh.


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